Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
PondTools, fiksegts2, Kirk78, Rgv, Kalispel
19,115 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics42,115
Posts571,695
Members19,116
Most Online45,564
17 hours ago
Top Posters
esshup 29,788
ewest 22,033
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 16,001
Who's Online Now
1 members (RichardinFL), 6,961 guests, and 153 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#225158 07/07/10 11:21 AM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 23
J
Lunker
Lunker
J Offline
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 23
Hi All relative Newbie here.

I have a 2/3 acre pond in SW NYS - 2 years holding fish. We have LMB, Hybrid BG, Perch, channel cats - app 40-50 of each type - and from a local fishing trip 18 local fish Perch, Bluegill, and rock bass.

Plenty of feed - just placed 7 lbs of fat heads in this spring - seems like plenty of feed for them. Fish are doing fine - LMB doubled in size year to year.

Question: The fish seem pale compared to local specicies in the lake - why is that? My fish are lighter / silver colored. The LMB in the lake have a dark green hue and the black is REALLY black. Mine look a lot lighter and have no green hue at all.

The pond does NOT have a lot of vegetation in it at this point.

What is causing that & Should I do anything about it?

jlodestro #225162 07/07/10 11:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 29,788
Likes: 1295
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 29,788
Likes: 1295
I wouldn't worry about it. It's most likely caused by your water color, and available sunlight.

The FHM were probably a quick snack for the fish. A single LMB needs 10# of food to gain 1 pound in weight.


www.hoosierpondpros.com

[Linked Image from lh6.ggpht.com]
http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
esshup #225170 07/07/10 12:04 PM
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 754
Likes: 1
C
Lunker
Lunker
C Offline
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 754
Likes: 1
I would say it's the water color also. My pond stays pretty muddy and all of my BG are not very colorful.


It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance?
Ronald Reagan
_______________
The good Brian



Cisco #225186 07/07/10 01:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,458
Likes: 3
C
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
C Offline
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,458
Likes: 3
Are you bass pellet trained? Doesn't seem like there is much forage in your pond if they aren't... I would be more concerned about that.

CJBS2003 #225206 07/07/10 02:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 23
J
Lunker
Lunker
J Offline
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 23
CJB - I do feed them w/ Pellets as well. The fish doubled in size in 12 months - the LMB were 5-6" last year - and now they are all around 10-12". Seem like they are growing fine.

There are a tremendous number of frogs and salamanders - lots of pollywogs and critters in the pond as well.

Pretty new at this - but I would have thought the 7 lbs placed in there this spring would have created a pretty good jolt to the forage already in there (put at least 10 lbs on fatheads last year as well).

Love to hear your thoughts.

jlodestro #225275 07/08/10 04:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,458
Likes: 3
C
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
C Offline
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,458
Likes: 3
Without any pure BG, you are relying solely on YP and HBG as your forage base. HBG are typically 90-95% males, this means they have a low reproduction rate. Not a good trait for a forage species. Your YP have a higher reproductive rate, but do not handle LMB predation well and will be extirpated from your pond in a generation or two. Without additional adult sized fish stockings, you won't have any YP in your pond. That would leave HBG, LMB and pellets. Depending on your goals, that can be a fine combination. What are your goals?

CJBS2003 #225705 07/10/10 10:48 AM
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 20,043
Likes: 1
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 20,043
Likes: 1
CJ,

I think jloestro did say he added some regular bluegills from another body of water.

Quote:
...and from a local fishing trip 18 local fish Perch, Bluegill, and rock bass.


I personally would have kept the rock bass out of the pond. Just another predator which will compete with your other predators. However I'm not sure how well rock bass reproduce in ponds so you may be fine.

Last edited by Cecil Baird1; 07/10/10 10:51 AM.

If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






Cecil Baird1 #225809 07/11/10 04:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,458
Likes: 3
C
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
C Offline
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,458
Likes: 3
I see I missed that... Well, then perhaps those 18 will pull of the needed reproduction to help feed the fish.


Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
Brenda Greer, kingfish, Laker, PeterF
Recent Posts
Iron Ore Well Water
by Tbar - 09/20/26 06:53 PM
Sampling Fish Population at the Feeder
by Tbar - 09/20/26 06:48 PM
Billboard Tarp Pond
by jason7858 - 09/20/26 04:47 PM
Pond Renovation/Fish Eradication
by RichardinFL - 09/20/26 04:06 PM
Stop Feeding- Will Bass Return to Foraging ?
by Bill Cody - 09/20/26 02:36 PM
Feeders - I know - asked many times
by Bill Cody - 09/20/26 02:22 PM
Gravel Pit Lake - Aeration ?
by 4CornersPuddle - 09/19/26 03:45 PM
Field and Stream Feeds?
by Bill Cody - 09/14/26 07:37 PM
Newbie from Colorado
by ewest - 09/14/26 03:34 PM
New Pond Update...
by ewest - 09/14/26 03:27 PM
Too much forage?
by Jst4Fun - 09/14/26 01:09 PM
Lotus variety of nice color
by gehajake - 09/13/26 02:07 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Uninvited crappie pictures
Uninvited crappie pictures
by fishwife, June 16
Chestnuts this afternoon
Chestnuts this afternoon
by Rangersedge, May 21
Trackhoe
Trackhoe
by Rangersedge, January 24
Thanksgiving RES
Thanksgiving RES
by Shorty, November 27
Nice 12 Inch BGxRES
Nice 12 Inch BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, June 1
F1 Bass stocked 6/24 caught 3/30/25
F1 Bass stocked 6/24 caught 3/30/25
by lafarmpondguy, March 31

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.1