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I have a 3/4 acre to 1 acre pond (excatation pond) deep down to 24 ft steep sides. So far I have put 1000 gambusia, 500 BG with 25% being RES. 100 CC. They were put in the pond in May 07. This next sring of 08' I want to put some HSB, and LMB. And I was thinking of getting some Golden Shiners from Andersons (250,000 FRY) I would like to put the GS fry in April and follow up with the bass in May. I am thinking 50HSB and 25LMB. What do ya think? I was thinking of just a BG, HSB only pond. But I don't think I could live without atleast a few LMB. When it is time to restock the HSB I am thinking of raising some in a cage untill they are big enough to release into the pond. Has any one else tried to raise them in a cage?
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I like your 50 HSB and 25 LMB. Regarding the cage, you might have to grow them pretty large to escape predation. Without an awful big cage, that would be tough.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
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Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP Grandpa
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See Bill Cody's articles on caged fish culture in the March/April, May/June, and July/August 2007 issues of PB Mag.
"Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever." -S. M. Stirling
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You can easily grow 25 LMB from 3"-4" long to 6"-8" long in a cylindrical cage 3 ft in dia and 3.5 ft deep. Plan on 85%-90% survival of stocked fish. As Theo says, see Bill Cody's articles in the 3 PB mags.
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Yeah but YOU'RE BILL CODY!
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You should probably genuflect when you say that.
"Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever." -S. M. Stirling
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Fine, but I'm not kissing any man's hand!
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Originally posted by GW: Fine, but I'm not kissing any man's hand! GW, since you are a relative new member of the forum, evolving from �dam yankee� to a true southern gentleman, I am sure that you are aware the high regard and respect that we forum members hold for MR. Bill Cody. . 
N.E. Texas 2 acre and 1/4 acre ponds Original george #173 (22 June 2002)
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I had to look up the word "genuflect."
Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:" "She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."
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Yes, I've seen the respect that Mr Cody is given and I'm sure he has earned it. I only wanted to help Mr. Cody by reminding him that he is indeed himself.
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Call me anything you want. Facts remain the facts, good or bad, - irregardless. I make mistakes just like everyone else. I stand behind what I am responsible for. As always "It all depends".
GW - I have a neighbor that back in May built a fish cage (1/2 mesh, 34" in diameter and internal volume of 21.5 cu ft) as per my instructions in Mar-Apr PBoss Mag. As a novice and first time fish cage raiser he put 70 YP 3"-7" long in the cage. Currently YP are doing just great, all feeding well and growing. Feed trained fingerling LMB would be easier to raise than the untrained perch caught from the pond. In Part II of the "fish in a cage raising article", I note that the difficulty factor of raising LMB and yellow perch are very similar. John G should not have a problem raising 25 fingerling LMB in a cage using LMB that have been fed trained. His biggest problem will be feeding them 5-7 times a week.
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Dang it. I subscribed just after that issue. Maybe someday I'll get all of those back issues...
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Back issues are available from this website and from PBoss office for $6.00ea. All the articles of the Magazine are listed with a short review. Topics of all articles are also listed as an extensive or very detailed index at the end of each year's annual contents. See this link for references to the annual contents of the PBoss magazines. http://www.pondboss.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum;f=22
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I donot want to raise LMB, I want to stock both LMB and HSB in the spring. But, in a year or so, when it is time to restock some HSB I will need to raise them up big enough to keep from being eaten by the LMB that will already be in the pond. I do not have acsess to a grow out pond or to advanced size HSB. I was just wondering how hard it is to raise HSB in a cage. Thanks, John
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