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Hey all - I wasn't sure where to post this -

Anyone interested in Brook trout - might like to visit "The Wild Center" in Tupper lake NY. At the facility - there are wonderful aquarium and artificial stream envirnoments - showing of native fishes - including 4 NY Strains of Native Brook Trout.

I was impressed - and intrigued-

A couple close up pictures of NY's Native brook trout (not sure of the strains) -







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Thanks for posing that FH. Dang trout are some beautiful fish. I like the one in the middle, looks like a leopard.


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What Jeff said.I wish I could grow some of them.


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I've been to the Wild Center twice and it is a fantastic facility with great wildlife and exhibits.
Unfortunately they continue to have meetings and conferences on man made global warming, and since they appear to have a closed mind on scientific evidence I won't be going back. ;\)



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 Originally Posted By: jeffhasapond
Thanks for posing that FH. Dang trout are some beautiful fish. I like the one in the middle, looks like a leopard.


Beautiful pics! I will be saving them for reference!

For those of you that didn't know the one in the middle is a tiger trout a cross between a female brown trout and male brook trout. I'm going to grow some out after I harvest the latest crop of brook trout.

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Tiger trout are VERY cool... Only about 5% of the eggs hatch in the wild because a fungus attacks them, so they are VERY rare in the wild. I've only caught two wild ones both from the same tiny stream in PA. Some state fish agencies are stocking them now as well.

Cecil, please posts pics when you get your tiger trout... I'd love to see them. I am curious as to how large you can grow them!

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{RANT ON}

Why do the idiots that name these things always get this wrong.

A Leopard has spots...



A Tiger has stripes.....



That should be a leopard trout.

The same was true for out cat (Conan that died two years ago), the idiot that named the species chose the name Bengal (as in tiger) even though he had both spots and stripes the Bengal is prized for their spots.

Here was our "Bengal" Conan on his favorite perch (my office chair)...


{RANT OFF}

Oh well, it's still a nice looking trout.


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Sorry Jeff but I see stripes on the tiger trout just like a tiger.

Maybe you're looking at the light area vs. the dark markings?

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 Originally Posted By: CJBS2003
Tiger trout are VERY cool... Only about 5% of the eggs hatch in the wild because a fungus attacks them, so they are VERY rare in the wild. I've only caught two wild ones both from the same tiny stream in PA. Some state fish agencies are stocking them now as well.

Cecil, please posts pics when you get your tiger trout... I'd love to see them. I am curious as to how large you can grow them!


One of the fish and game state agencies has upped hatch rate and survival higher than other domestic producers but I can't recall which one or high.

If I get them it won't be for 1 or 2 years depending on how my present brookies do. I usually alternate between brooks and browns and may do a cycle of tigers.

I've caught them in Massachusetts on vacation a few years ago. I was told by a local they are produced in New Hampshire. However these fish were not that great looking as they had frayed fins especially the caudal fin. Could just be lake conditions but the brooks, browns, and bows in the same lake were in much better condition.


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I guess it's in the eye of the beholder.

Someday, when we live at our place, I'd like to add trout to our pond.


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 Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1






Sorry Jeff but I see stripes on the tiger trout just like a tiger.

Maybe you're looking at the light area vs. the dark markings?


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I guess it's in the eye of the beholder.

To me, they look more like the circuit traces on a circuit card than spots or stripes.

I guess "Circuit Trout" doesn't cut it, eh?


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 Originally Posted By: jeffhasapond
I guess it's in the eye of the beholder.

Someday, when we live at our place, I'd like to add trout to our pond.


I'm sure it is. Take a look at the picture below. On the back of the fish what do you see? I've seen it described as black vermiculations surrounded by yellow. To me it's the reverse of that, that is, yellow vermiculations in a black background. (This is a brook trout I mounted.)




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Sorry Jeff but I see stripes on the tiger trout just like a tiger.

Maybe you're looking at the light area vs. the dark markings?


 Originally Posted By: jeffhasapond
I guess it's in the eye of the beholder.

To me, they look more like the circuit traces on a circuit card than spots or stripes.

I guess "Circuit Trout" doesn't cut it, eh?


Sounds like something an engineer would think!

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Cecil, I might have mentioned it before but the Morrisville state college in NY sells Tiger Trout, thats where I got mine last year.



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 Originally Posted By: adirondack pond
Cecil, I might have mentioned it before but the Morrisville state college in NY sells Tiger Trout, thats where I got mine last year.


Trouble it most likely they do not test for the nine pathogens required for five consecutive years that my state requires for importation. If I have to I will get them from a place called the Musky Trout Farm here:

http://www.muskytrouthatchery.com/

but it won't be for a year or two.

I'd like to convince my trout supplier to produce some but there are no guarantees.


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Yea Cecil I know where that is, I use to live 5 miles away in Washington NJ.
I don't know if Morrisville tests for all the pathogens you mentioned but with all the tax dollars the state colleges get they ought to.




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