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Stocked 20# of 5-6" golden shiners over a month ago in a 1/8 acre pond. Pond is new. Never stocked before. Also added 3# of fatheads.
Initial die off of 5-7% (guessing). Looked like I might have a fungus problem.
Since the first week or so, I've only seen a dozen or so floaters.
But I NEVER see the shiners. I feed cottonseed meal and small catfish pellets daily. The FHM take it readily.
Put out a couple of large minnow traps baited with bread. Mouth opening would allow GS. Not a one.
I can't seine because of the brush I put in pond.
I guess the question is: Is there a chance that these fish died and DID NOT float to the top?? There should be 800-1000 shiners in this pond.
Thanks!
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Shiners should readily take small worms on small hooks if present - that would give you another method of checking.
"Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever." -S. M. Stirling
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Theo, Thanks.. I plan to try that tomorrow.
But still, wouldn't it be unusual to lose 800+ large shiners and never see them ,or a lot of them, floating on the surface?
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Shiners will sink and float.
Just today I pulled two shiners out of a tank. One was on the top and one was on the bottom.
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that small a pond i might consider getting one of those aquaview cameras.....another method to "see" whats there.
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Michauxii, I use trout pellets or cat food in my bait trap to catch some golden shiners in my pond.
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When I want to catch shiners for bait in my pond, I throw out some feed and then fish with a small bead-head fly on a bobber.
You've got to set the hook quick 'cause they'll spit it out fast.
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Update, I did as Theo suggested. 2# test line,no.10 cricket hook and a tiny piece of worm. Caught several pretty quick.
So..... All is not lost. I'll post some periodic growth reports on these fish.
Thanks!
Last edited by michauxii; 04/30/08 12:12 AM.
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