questions on adding plant types - 05/01/13 03:15 PM
hello all:
ok, so i am dreadfully unprepared to answer the quiz you guys will give me once I ask my questions....so fair warning.
Recently the skinny bass problem in my dad's pond has reared its ugly head...but in an awesome way. this past autumn, a neighbor landed a 7-8lb bass. This winter I pulled a 4lb bass through the ice. Last year I landed two that were at least 3lbs. (the pike, btw, only got one on a tip-up this winter, 23 inches, skinny and shortly became a pikesicle).
Then, two weeks ago, another neighbor caught another fish (potentially the same one, I suppose), at or above 4lbs. And now it has gone crazy. They want to introduce a bunch of plants to create more cover to convince the larger bass to flock to the area of the pond in front of their dock, and provide an environment for more big fish to grow. They have been telling my dad that they will be planting some mass amount of lily pads, and however much my dad disagrees with the idea, they are adamant.
So...my questions...
1) does anyone know a good resource (online references would be best) that discusses the problematic aspects of lily pads?
2) does anyone know a "breed" of lily pads that could be introduced that would not spread as quickly and dangerously as the other ones I have seen (here in southern IL/Eastern MO, all i hear is that if you get a lily pad, you are stuck controlling them for years...dont know if that is accurate or just poor control measures...but still).
3) can anyone point me to plants that would add what the neighbor(s) are looking for, but would be less problematic?
now, knowing you guys, there will be a slew of questions for me before you can make any educated recomendations. so yet again, i will fail this quiz as i will, as always, fail to provide all the info you need ahead of time...sorry about that.
-7.5 ac, northern illinois, western part of the chain of lakes.
-ridiculously clear water, very little cover (you can see 8 ft to the bottom in the fall, 4-6ft depending on the wind in the summer). Completely surrounded by homes, all use ample fertilizer on their lawns.
-~8ft deep on average. gets to 12 in some spots, even as deep as 16-20 in the deepest area, but normally 8-10ft is what you can expect.
-there are currently thick mats of weeds that they treat for every year. No, i cannot identify, but have asked my dad to snap some pics, which i will post on here if he follows through.
-LMB, NP, BG, BC plus pumpkinseeds, warmouth, and many other BG-like species, or hybrids thereof that look strikingly different from the aforementioned.
ok, so i am dreadfully unprepared to answer the quiz you guys will give me once I ask my questions....so fair warning.
Recently the skinny bass problem in my dad's pond has reared its ugly head...but in an awesome way. this past autumn, a neighbor landed a 7-8lb bass. This winter I pulled a 4lb bass through the ice. Last year I landed two that were at least 3lbs. (the pike, btw, only got one on a tip-up this winter, 23 inches, skinny and shortly became a pikesicle).
Then, two weeks ago, another neighbor caught another fish (potentially the same one, I suppose), at or above 4lbs. And now it has gone crazy. They want to introduce a bunch of plants to create more cover to convince the larger bass to flock to the area of the pond in front of their dock, and provide an environment for more big fish to grow. They have been telling my dad that they will be planting some mass amount of lily pads, and however much my dad disagrees with the idea, they are adamant.
So...my questions...
1) does anyone know a good resource (online references would be best) that discusses the problematic aspects of lily pads?
2) does anyone know a "breed" of lily pads that could be introduced that would not spread as quickly and dangerously as the other ones I have seen (here in southern IL/Eastern MO, all i hear is that if you get a lily pad, you are stuck controlling them for years...dont know if that is accurate or just poor control measures...but still).
3) can anyone point me to plants that would add what the neighbor(s) are looking for, but would be less problematic?
now, knowing you guys, there will be a slew of questions for me before you can make any educated recomendations. so yet again, i will fail this quiz as i will, as always, fail to provide all the info you need ahead of time...sorry about that.
-7.5 ac, northern illinois, western part of the chain of lakes.
-ridiculously clear water, very little cover (you can see 8 ft to the bottom in the fall, 4-6ft depending on the wind in the summer). Completely surrounded by homes, all use ample fertilizer on their lawns.
-~8ft deep on average. gets to 12 in some spots, even as deep as 16-20 in the deepest area, but normally 8-10ft is what you can expect.
-there are currently thick mats of weeds that they treat for every year. No, i cannot identify, but have asked my dad to snap some pics, which i will post on here if he follows through.
-LMB, NP, BG, BC plus pumpkinseeds, warmouth, and many other BG-like species, or hybrids thereof that look strikingly different from the aforementioned.