.so I am kind of ok with a non-venomous rat snake....which a lot of people think is a copperhead.

That page was interesting but the funniest part was the great lengths and detail they will go into to remind you the difference between poison and venomous. and I guess one actually gets crossways with admins for getting it wrong.

Interesting, educational site tho.

All the really good ideas I've ever had came to me while I was milking a cow.