Hey Flame, I've seen bass in the wild so locked in the Male had two females with him and I could have probably touched them with the rod if I'd thought to try.

I keep thinking maybe they'll bed deeper since my visibility is around 4'. Looked a bit turbid yesterday but I could still make out the top of a brick pile close to the main bedding area.

The male has actually been hanging on top of a submerged nylon pallet platform lately. Its suspended over the deep end on PVC legs and has a solid cinder block on top to keep it down on the shallow end. The whole thing may be 16" deep. I see both females around him too. Like I said earlier, none of them seem threatened by me. They will swim off slowly, but usually come right back or even follow me around

.10 surface acre pond, 10.5 foot deep. SW LA. The epitome of a mutt pond. BG, LMB, GSF, RES, BH, Warmouth, Longear Sunfish, Gambusia,Mud Minnows, Crappie, and now shiners!!...I subscribe!!