So out of the 4 or so contractors I talked to, wanted to put the pond at the lowest point for better water shed. Well I didn't want it there but that's where they all wanted to place the pond. Test holes were dug but apparently we weren't lucky enough. During the start of the pond dig we encountered trash. It appears to have been some kind of landfill at one point. Tires, bumpers you name it. There goes the pond idea. Going to try higher up towards the house. This is the spot I wanted to put the pond in the first place, but it has lower watershed. Oh well. I'll find out tomorrow once he goes deeper. It's going to be much smaller than a quarter acre.