The otters got my CC last winter, but not many BG at all. They left after eating the CC. Either BG evaded them by getting into the small brush piles in the ponds or the otters aren't that interested in catching 6 to 8 inch BG. There were two LMB about 12 to 14 inches in the first pond and the otters left them also.

I have found two surviving CC in one pond out of about 35 and four in the other pond out of about 50. I can easily count them when they come to feed.