Pat, I buy 22 cal shorts by Aguila called colibris. Just a primer and no powder. They are quiet enough for me to shoot in town. I buy them by the case(10 boxes of 50 each) for tree rats and to try to correct a flinch that I have developed. Academy and Cabelas carries them. They are not as accurate as those with powder. I have shot about 2,000 rounds during the past year. Even without powder, I still have to clean the barrel fairly regularly. They do a good job on squirrels.

I didn't know about the CCI ones.

It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP