bob i think what it really depends on is what the fish have been able to forage on their entire lives....if they are forced to eat brim and crappie...then you may try an artificial lure of that nature. however, from personal experience i know the hybrids that i have caught, the ones above 5lbs normally come off of a white/gray Stump Jumper...they sell them at BPS. however i have also found that sometimes catching pond reared fish is alot harder in ponds than in lakes...especially the big ones. when fishing for them when, where, and from what(boat or land) do you fish? this could also have a significant effect.