Thanks guys. Guess I'll give the LMB a boost then. I put some in when I stocked (3-4") back in July...so probably not doing anything yet. I'll go catch some 9-12" from my uncles. He shouldn't care. Will they be big enough now to put a dent in them? Its a 1-1.25 acre pond...so do not want to get to many in there. Maybe 10 or so??