Around here it was "if it's brown it's down" and that led to no mature bucks. Now with the new 13" inside rule that will get the bucks to 2-1/2- 3-1/2 year old . But then they allowed a spike or one side unbranched, so that took out more bucks that were to young- to reach potential. Then you can't kill does except during bow season . We wound up with a 15-20 doe to buck ratio leading to many does not being bred. We got started a game management program going to harvest does only this year to allow the buck ratio to get closer to normal 1-2 to 1 doe to buck ratio..... We will see