I would have put him at 3.5 at max, probably 2.5. If he is 5, then his genetics are not what I suspected. I have been passing on a very nice 120s 8-point that I suspect is in the 2.5 to 3.5 age range based on his appearance and stupidity of standing under me at point-blank range. I have become very selective in recent years based on past success.