Speaking of creek chubs. I checked my minnow traps tonight where my spillway leaves my 1 acre pond and there was 6 creek chubs in one trap. They were between 5 and 7 inches long I've never seen ones that large before. So when I took them out of the trap I noticed the tail of a pumpkinseed hanging out of the largest chubs mouth. I wish my camera on phone still worked so I could have gotten some pictures. I'm still in awe that a creek chub could go after a pumpkinseed.