Cant believe you live so close N8 and have that kind of ice? My ice has been crap from the beginning.. I did manage to walk out and take my Texas Hunters down i got from you (doing a little modifying). Just going out to them was very scary and i stuck my fingers through the ice where their poles are prolly 3-4 but it was cracking and making a racket so i scooted off quickly *puckered*