Thanks for all the time & info guys, I love this forum! I talked to a guy who manages a lake not too far from me that has had great success with the F1 bass, yes his lake is south of me, but not terribly far south. Then I talked to Josh with Aquatic Environmental Services. So at this point I am certainly interested in the F1. Is there a good reason to not go with say 50% F1's and the rest regular northerns or something along those lines? It seems I hear a lot of mixed opinions on the F1 and some have told me they won't do well this far north but according to the guy I talked to they seem to do quite well.