Thanks Frzgator, they are well established. They were already like this when I bought the place 2yrs ago. I've seen the weed razor. So you actually used it to cut them down! WOW, that's always an option.

I suppose I could always spray them then wait for the stuff to die then use a weed razor on the stubble, wonder if it would make it easier that way or if it would be easier to cut them as is. I've read alot about keeping them cut below water level will eventually kill them off without chemicals.

I know all about being sore, I pulled hundreds by hand from around one of my docks last year. That's when I stopped and said there has to be a better way LOL!