jeff, i've never seen mr. otto post here, perhaps he did long ago. but if i figure him correctly, he'd be happy to talk direct on the phone about dirt, dirt moving, bottomscaping, leaky ponds, anything pond construction related. he's probably too busy for this computer stuff cause he's either movin dirt, tellin someone where to move it, designing a dam or tellin someone how to build one......you get the picture. i have the profoundest respect for guys like otto and i'm glad to know a couple out here like him, couldnt have done my project w/out them. if he's anything like my friend mike, his fingers are too big to work the dern keyboard anyway but they can tickle a lever on a 23 ton trackhoe and pick up a pebble with a 4 ft bucket.
