its official! the river rats pond is alive. i put 5lbs of fhm in it yesterday and they are doing good. lost about 8 or 10 so i figure that aint bad. i bought them from logans fish farm in southern illinois. anyone delt with them. they are only about 6 miles from my house as the crow flys but it took me an hour to get there. i got that little piece of water between us called the mississippi river. i was impressed by there operation. its big. and the folks were helpfull and plesant to deal with.