Bill and Bruce :



I have read both parts 1 and 2 of the BG articles several times and I am fairly sure Theo has also. I had them both out when I looked at Ryan's fish. WRT fish 2 I missed the size of the earflap (did not pay enough attention - uggh) but other than that I see no black/dark tipped scales , gular area looks female , as does urogenital area, and other pic indicates females larger than this and colored like this in the pond. I see no hint of burgundy . Ryan indicates plankton bloom and algae and bright colors on HBG no indication of muddy/ turbid water. If Theo and I ( Ryan missed also) are having this much trouble with the help of the articles what does that say wrt those of us, other than you guys, if we were to try a male only pond or to need to be able to make reliable sex determinations on BG. I will try to take some pics this weekend and post them for round 2.