I'm glad you all mentioned the persimmon. I don't recall seeing any in the nurseries, but they are native and grow wild. This is one of many on my place


They don't grow as large as oaks. They are one of the first trees to change color and drop their leaves. The persimmons are starting to ripen now, and your right, you won't try a green one but once The persimmon jams are an aquired taste that I haven't aquired yet, kind of like country ham. \:\)