Jeff that was not pointed at you or anyone else but was an explanation of why so many managers and owners have a negative opinion of GSF in that situation. It was written right after GW posted but the PB server would not take the post for a while (seems we are having forum problems again).

Jeff I did not want to go there with your second sentence as it tends to confuse the matter. Depending on management methods a GSF-LMB pond can work long term. Repeated stocking of GSF and/or removal of LMB by fishing or use of female only LMB with the management. of GSF levels (catch , trap and seine) will all work. It really does depend on the management level, tools and the methods used.