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#499781 - 12/19/18 08:20 AM Re: Fall Observations [Re: Quarter Acre]
Quarter Acre Offline


Registered: 06/10/16
Posts: 1032
Loc: West Central Missouri
Setterguy, I have yet to wet a line during the winter months. Before owning a pond, it was just too much to plan a day a go to open waters in the cold weather. Surely I can find time to fish some this winter, but getting out on the ice does not thrill me at all. I went to the pond to try and get bottom temp readings yesterday, but the thin layer of ice has not thawed to allow the throw and retrieval of my thermometer. If not today, this warm streak should allow for it tomorrow. It's amazing how 40 degree water can hold ice even when the last two days have been in the 50s.

I have seen several ice overs already this winter which is out of the ordinary compared to the last 7 years of owning the property, but the thickest has only been about 3/4" this winter.

Liquidsquid, Your observations of separated warm muddy water must have been a sight to see!
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#500500 - 01/09/19 10:30 AM Re: Fall Observations [Re: Quarter Acre]
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Registered: 06/10/16
Posts: 1032
Loc: West Central Missouri
Just checking in to record some observations. The pond has recieved aonther rain since mid Dec that pushed water out of the pond. The 15" overflow pipe was half full at the inlet. A fair amount of light tan foam was generated at the inlet of the pond and the thin layer of existing ice kept it from making it's way to the outlet pipe. This foam is likely protiens from the cattle and hay pastures that feed the pond. I measured water temps at the outlet of the overflow pipe, from surface to the botoom of the pond, and inlet watershed temps. They were all within a degre of 40 degrees F. I was releved that temp shock was not going to be an issue. I turned the aeration system on for a couple hours (all three diffusers) so that the ice would disipate and allow the foam to flow out. It may have made it's way to outlet pipe and/or broke up and disolved into the pond. Either way, the water flowed through the pond for more than 24 hours. At it's peek, I have estimated that it was flowing out at a rate of 7 to 9000 gallons per minute. That would be enough to completely flush the pond within a coule of hours (given uniform flow from inlet to outlet which would not necessarilyu be the case). At any rate, the pond's water was mostly exchanged during the 24 four period of inflow.

Ever since the heavy mid December rain, the water clarity has hovered around the 12 inch mark except for the day of receent heavy rains and it was reduce to 6". I think the two hours of aeration per day contributes to the low clarity, but I hestitate to turn it off to find out. Last year's clarity was near 30" all winter long (without any aeration).

PS: I fished the pond twice since my last entry for about 15 minutes per trip, it started to drizzle both times, it was cold, no bites whatsoever...I went back to the warm shop. My spinner may be too fast of an action for 40 degree water.
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#503554 - 03/26/19 11:27 AM Re: A Pond Log by QA [Re: Quarter Acre]
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Registered: 06/10/16
Posts: 1032
Loc: West Central Missouri
I threw out some left over feed yesterday to find some, but slight interest from the HBG. If the HSB were there, they stayed low enough not to cause any swirls. It has been about a month since I tried to feed anything and had no takers then. It's time to get the feeder ready and some fresh food on order. Water temps were 46 on the bottom and 52 towards the top.

Pond has been very muddy all winter. We have had a lot of rain runoff and the single shallow diffuser seems to add to the murky waters.

I will be setting up all three diffusers to start functioning soon. I think I will start that process as if it were starting up for the first time...15 minutes first day, double the time every day thereafter that until I am up and running 24 hours a day. Once summer hits, I will have to reduce it down to nighttime operations.
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#503591 - 03/27/19 07:37 AM Re: A Pond Log by QA [Re: Quarter Acre]
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Registered: 09/19/14
Posts: 2713
Loc: Harrison Co. Texas
For me, I lost some fish when I doubled the diffuser time everyday. I go a little slower now when I do my start up. I would suggest a slower start up if it were me.
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#503604 - 03/27/19 09:46 AM Re: A Pond Log by QA [Re: Quarter Acre]
Quarter Acre Offline


Registered: 06/10/16
Posts: 1032
Loc: West Central Missouri
I brought my air system up last year using the basic guidelines without indecent and since the winter diffuser has been active, I hope all goes well this spring.

TG, my pond was recently renovated and has very little muck on the bottom to add to the poisoning effect. I think all will be fine, we'll see. I will, by default, be bringing the system up a little slower than prescribed because I will be seeing some cooler temps this coming weekend and will not double the run times if the temperatures do not cooperate. I base my air schedule solely on water vs air temps. If the air temp is cooler during the run time, I prefer to run the air as little as possible so increasing run-time that day will be put off until air temps rise some more.
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#503605 - 03/27/19 09:47 AM Re: A Pond Log by QA [Re: Quarter Acre]
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Registered: 06/10/16
Posts: 1032
Loc: West Central Missouri
I have ordered Optimal Blue Gill feed for this year. I chose to bump up in feed pellet size to accommodate my growing HBG. The Optimal BG feed is 1 mm larger in diameter than the Junior and much larger than the Starter #4 that I 50/50 mixed and fed last year. The BG feed is 2% lower in proteins and lipids compared to the #4 and Junior, but I think the fish will prefer the larger pellets and eat more aggressively, especially since the FHM population is much smaller this year.
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#503965 - 04/04/19 04:46 PM Re: A Pond Log by QA [Re: Quarter Acre]
Quarter Acre Offline


Registered: 06/10/16
Posts: 1032
Loc: West Central Missouri
I have been feeding pellets about every over day now for the last week. The water temp near the surface have broken 50 degrees F. I am hand throwing small feed near the bank and larger out at the end of the dock. The HBG are hitting very light out in the open waters and the FHM's are showing some interest near the bank. I did see the first crawdad feeding yesterday, but only one and only for a very short time. I have been seeing a barred owl or two in the evening and they are harvesting the crawdads best I can tell. I often see a lone pincher on the dock (without the rest of the body) and I have seen, what I believe to be, owl scat on the dock posts that is mainly crawdad exoskeleton. At any rate, the pond is warming up and the feeder is ready for service.

I have also been babysitting the aerator system. It has only been running about a hour a day during the late afternoon and only on days that the temps are above the water temps.
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#503972 - 04/04/19 06:05 PM Re: A Pond Log by QA [Re: Quarter Acre]
DrLuke Offline


Registered: 06/04/15
Posts: 389
Loc: Grinnell, IA
Originally Posted By: Quarter Acre
I did see the first crawdad feeding yesterday, but only one and only for a very short time. I have been seeing a barred owl or two in the evening and they are harvesting the crawdads best I can tell. I often see a lone pincher on the dock (without the rest of the body) and I have seen, what I believe to be, owl scat on the dock posts that is mainly crawdad exoskeleton.


Very interesting! Just curious, do you think the owls are pouncing them in the very shallow areas, or waiting for them to crawl out on shore first? Any area where you think the owls hunt frequently enough to put a game camera out? It would be super neat to see how they catch a crawdad for supper! As always, thanks for the report. Here's hoping for a great summer pond season!
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#504012 - 04/05/19 12:05 PM Re: A Pond Log by QA [Re: Quarter Acre]
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Registered: 09/19/14
Posts: 2713
Loc: Harrison Co. Texas
I would ck that scat and see if it is loaded with fish scales. If so it would be an otter. I was not familiar with otter scat and then I was frown My first sample was on the pier.
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Thank The Good Lord the government in Washington DC gets little done.
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#504119 - 04/08/19 03:26 PM Re: A Pond Log by QA [Re: DrLuke]
Quarter Acre Offline


Registered: 06/10/16
Posts: 1032
Loc: West Central Missouri
Originally Posted By: DrLuke
Very interesting! Just curious, do you think the owls are pouncing them in the very shallow areas, or waiting for them to crawl out on shore first? Any area where you think the owls hunt frequently enough to put a game camera out? It would be super neat to see how they catch a crawdad for supper! As always, thanks for the report. Here's hoping for a great summer pond season!


I caught an owl at the bank the other day which is odd because when I have seen them at the pond they are always in the cedar trees. This time it was merely a few feet from the shore on the ground at about an hour before dark. I presume that it was waiting for a crawdad to make itself known in the water and then would snatch it out. The only times that I have seen the Northern Virile crawdads out of the water was after a major rain event and there was some kind of exodus going on as they were everywhere. I spent the evening picking them up out of the shop which is 150 feet from any water source (pond or creek).

My game camera went south this last year, but if I get another I will put it on the dock to watch the pond.
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#504120 - 04/08/19 03:28 PM Re: A Pond Log by QA [Re: TGW1]
Quarter Acre Offline


Registered: 06/10/16
Posts: 1032
Loc: West Central Missouri
Originally Posted By: TGW1
I would ck that scat and see if it is loaded with fish scales. If so it would be an otter. I was not familiar with otter scat and then I was frown My first sample was on the pier.


Here's a pic of the scat. It seems entirely composed of crawdad bits...



This one was deposited on top of the dock post which is about 4 feet tall.
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#504127 - 04/08/19 03:50 PM Re: A Pond Log by QA [Re: Quarter Acre]
roundy Offline


Registered: 09/10/16
Posts: 78
Loc: Central Illinois
Makes my anatomy hurt just thinking about passing that.....
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#504129 - 04/08/19 05:03 PM Re: A Pond Log by QA [Re: roundy]
DrLuke Offline


Registered: 06/04/15
Posts: 389
Loc: Grinnell, IA
Originally Posted By: roundy
Makes my anatomy hurt just thinking about passing that.....


Not sure if would make you feel any better to know they regurgitate those back up? eek
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