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#497347 - 10/09/18 09:35 PM Re: A pond dedicated to Redear Sunfish [Re: snrub]
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Loc: SE Kansas
Couple of RES caught right before dark from this pond. I think they are coming along ok. They just need to grow and spawn next year.

Also removed three RES hybrids. Glad to get any hybrids out of this pond. They go into my adjacent old pond where I enjoy fishing for hybrids.


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Description: RES 1

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Description: RES 2


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#497355 - 10/10/18 11:35 AM Re: A pond dedicated to Redear Sunfish [Re: snrub]
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Sure are pretty fish John, they are one of my favorites

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#497730 - 10/20/18 01:35 PM Re: A pond dedicated to Redear Sunfish [Re: snrub]
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The water in this pond has been unbelievably clear lately. FA growing on the bottom in some spots like gangbusters so maybe that is the reason (FA taking up all the nutrients maybe?).

Earlier this summer I could catch 3.5-6" SMB YOY one after another easily. Now I put a lure in the water, can see them and move the lure so it almost hits them, and they just ignore it. I did get them to play with a curly tail jig just a little bit last night. They would ignore it as long as it was around them but if I let it drop to the bottom in a clear patch a couple would nip at the tail a couple times before loosing interest. Did not catch a thing in this pond last night and only a couple strikes. That is one nice thing about having multiple ponds with different species. The BG were still biting reasonably well in my main 3 acre pond and the HBG and GSF in my other ponds are always good for a bite (only RES and SMB in this pond).

Since the water was so clear some big beds that I assume are my SMB beds are very visible. The reason I think they may be SMB beds are because of the size. The largest one is probably about 2' in diameter (the most distant in the picture). The RES I have seen on beds earlier in the season the beds were only about half or a little more in size. In this pond I made several finger mounds jutting out from the dam toward the middle of the pond. All of these structural fingers have beds on them similar to the one pictured only this has the largest beds on it. I also have some mounds out in the middle of the pond I can barely see from the bank with the water being so low but I can not see if they have beds on them or not. I suspect they do. I need to buy a small boat so I can go out there some time. I have not seen any fish on the beds for quite a while.

The pond has never completely refilled yet since I raised the full pool level by 9" this summer (pictures and description earlier in this thread). I would like to see what it would look like full but rains all summer and so far this fall have been such that only a small amount has run off into the ponds. Not enough to fill this one completely yet. The beds pictured will have another 12-14" of water over them once the pond is full to the new water level.

Bushy pond weed pictured closest to the shore in first picture with some slightly further out covered in FA. The FA seems to kind of keep the bushy pond weed in check by competing with it.


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Description: View of "finger" leading out from the dam toward the middle of the pond with beds on the top

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Description: closer picture of the finger with beds

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Description: close up of the largest bed




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#497733 - 10/20/18 07:50 PM Re: A pond dedicated to Redear Sunfish [Re: snrub]
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Interesting. I don't recall ever seeing SMB nests in a colony before but the ones I've seen are in a stream or river.
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#497734 - 10/20/18 08:23 PM Re: A pond dedicated to Redear Sunfish [Re: Bill D.]
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I don't know for sure they are. They just seem to be larger than the other beds I was able to see RES on so i was making an assumption. Could be wrong.

During the spring when the SMB woukd have spawned I could not see these beds because water was not so clear and it was a bit deeper.


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#497735 - 10/20/18 08:47 PM Re: A pond dedicated to Redear Sunfish [Re: snrub]
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I suspect the larger bed was originally a SMB bed that was likely reused by a RES and then other RES made a couple beds near the large bed.
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#497736 - 10/20/18 10:59 PM Re: A pond dedicated to Redear Sunfish [Re: Bill Cody]
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Well the sun came out and the fish were biting in this RES/SMB pond for a few minutes. Then they started ignoring me again. Caught three in a few minutes then nothing for the next hour. Oh well.

Water is so clear I can see lots and lots of 4-6" SMB

Moved the smaller one to my forage pond and the larger one to my sediment pond to grow them out big enough to put in my main 3 acre pond. They will probably get moved to the main pond next summer or next fall. The RES went back in this same pond to grow.


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Description: These SMB amaze me what they will try to bite

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Description: A little bigger YOY SMB

20181020_153731.jpg (127 downloads)
Description: And a RES




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#498328 - 11/03/18 04:14 PM Re: A pond dedicated to Redear Sunfish [Re: snrub]
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The SMB went back to avoiding my hook again. So I changed tactics. Got the cast net out. I could see them in the clear water, but they just would not bite a hook.

I wanted a few more of the 3-4" size to transfer to my forage pond to grow out over the winter and next spring. Ended up with 18 to transfer. A couple looked a little light weight and a couple of tubbies that were very fat. But most just looked to be in very good shape. Most were in the 3.5-4" range with a couple slightly larger. I was a little surprised I didn't get any 6-8" ones because I see them from the bank regularly. They may have been out in deeper water. Or just quicker to escape the net.

Some pictures below.

FA is terrible in this pond. Brought up blobs of it along with some bushy pond weed, but still got a few fish most casts.

Also got one RES hybrid in the cast net. frown Fat little bugger. Moved it to my old pond.


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Description: The entire catch for the day

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Description: And one YOY RES from the cast net




Edited by snrub (11/03/18 04:32 PM)
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#505924 - 05/15/19 02:33 PM Re: A pond dedicated to Redear Sunfish [Re: snrub]
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Took the wife down to this RES/SMB pond around noon today so she could see the RES on the nests clearly. The water is clear and with the sun overhead it is easy to see the RES on the shallow nests. Maybe 12-18" deep water.

Several scattered nests around the edge of the dam where there is a shallow ledge. On another side 7 grouped tightly together getting into squabbles at times over turf.

When we fed last night saw one pair actually spawning in that group of 7. Did see one hybrid on a lone nest as it has some yellow tipping on the fins. Need to catch him and remove.

Lots and lots of SMB from 4" up to about 10" readily visible all around the pond. With the warmer water the larger ones are really starting to hit the feed and come swimming towards the bank when I come up on the pond with the 4 wheeler. Feeding has been persnickety and off and on this spring with the SMB. But they are getting with the program now, finally.


Edited by snrub (05/15/19 02:34 PM)
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