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widely recognized as the largest freshwater fish ever caught The wake from a big sturgeon would toss that little Mekong RIver cat around like a bathtub toy.
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bobad,
I got a e-mail sometime back with pictures of a Sturgeon over 11 foot length and over 1,000 pounds. Like to know how old the boy was.....
I'll look and see if I still have a copy in the files if anybody would like to see it.
Dan
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"Others have made claims of finding larger sturgeon, but the International Game Fishing Association says the largest sturgeon on record is 468 pounds. That fish has also held the record for largest freshwater fish caught." SOURCE "The White Sturgeon (Acipenser transmontanus, meaning "sturgeon beyond the mountains"), also known as the Pacific sturgeon, Oregon sturgeon, Columbia sturgeon, Sacramento sturgeon, and California white sturgeon, is a sturgeon (a fish of the family Acipenseridae) which lives along the west coast of North America from the Aleutian Islands to Central California. It is the largest freshwater fish in North America. A white sturgeon can weigh more than 1500 pounds (680 kg), and grow to 20 feet (6.10 m) in length, and can live 100 years or more." SOURCE Either people are being sloppy in their reporting, or that cat was caught on rod and reel! That seems doubtful though, because that species of catfish are vegetarians.
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There are old photographs in existance (too old to photochop) that show gigantic sturgeon weighing well over 1000 pounds. Source: my cob webby memory. Just imagine 1 of those Mekong cats veging out in a weedy pond.
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I think I've found the disconnect WRT people discounting Sturgeon as the largest freshwater fish. In the article linked below they make the statement that Sturgeon are not purely freshwater fish. "Sturgeon spend most of their lives at sea, or in brackish water, and only swim into freshwater rivers to spawn." SOURCE There is one place where the Sturgeon don't move into salt water, but that isn't the natural order. They don't return to the ocean like most Sturgeon because man-made dams have blocked their way. Apparently they are surviving and even multiplying, but who can say if they will remain viable in the long run? "Dams constructed along the Columbia and Snake Rivers has also become a threat to sturgeon. The dams block passage to and from the ocean leaving landlocked populations. The higher water levels have, as a result, destroyed areas that used to have rapid currents, eliminating spawning grounds. At this point in time, the only healthy population of White Sturgeon on the Columbia River and its tributaries is the lower Columbia River population. These fish are still able to move freely between marine, estuarine, and freshwater environments. All other populations have become landlocked because of the dams. These populations have suffered from the inaccessibility of many food sources, inability to migrate, and destruction of their habitat. As a result, none of the populations above Bonneville Dam are considered to be abundant but some do support fisheries. The Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife has worked together with The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife and the Columbia River Treaty Tribes to impose size restrictions as well as season and quota restrictions on all sturgeon caught in the Columbia River. The objective of size restrictions is to minimize fishing impacts on large sturgeon that comprise the spawning population." SAUCE So it looks like the title of largest freshwater fish has to go to the Mekong cat for now.
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I grew up near Lake Lavon in Texas (40 miles or so NE of Dallas) and I remember hearing tales of monster catfish being seen by divers along the dam. My memory is fuzzy, but I seem to recall seeing pics of big ole cats that were snagged there. Seems they were bigger than the men that caught them. Heck, I was just a kid though and that was a loooong time ago, so I could've just dreamt that at some point.
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The story always involves a diver and a dam. Different lake every time, though.
You'd think that a biologist would capture one on a netting survey, or electrofishing or something. You know, just once!
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Now what fun would that be? Then we'd know for sure and there'd be no more speculation. :rolleyes: Personally I like not knowing. I'm not the conspiracy theory type, but stuff like this makes one think. There's so much out there we don't even know about, and it is fun to speculate.
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Well, we now know that a catfish can reach at least 9 feet and 650 lbs, and it's not likely that that one particular catfish was the THE largest.
In my opinion it's not weird to think that huge catfish exist in the US also. When you think about it, how much time do humans spend hanging around the bottom of deep fresh water? Also, it's only natural that when people re-tell the story it happened in their local lake or river.
Anyway, if a diver for the Thailand Dam Authority tells me that he was checking the base of a dam and he saw a giant catfish I guess I wouldn't have any reason to doubt him.
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Originally posted by possumeater:
Personally I like not knowing. Maybe the only downside to pond fishing? I can certainly see where the legends come from. Murky water, claustrophobic feeling, adrenalin pumping, then SOMETHING REALLY BIG brushes by you...
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I've heard tell of divers out southwest of Lincoln NE doing some bottom work on a pond owned by a DR Frankenbruce. When they came back up their hair was snow white and they were ghost-white pale. Their horrific stories of RES and BG's as big as volkswagons swept through the Nebraska countryside like wildfire. They swore they'd never dive in those ponds again.
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There was a guy that was spearfishing off the texas coast that speared a huge jew fish(grouper) and it drug him into a hole and the man drowned. That was a true story not urban legend jew fish can get very very large. I have seen actual pictures of jew fish caught surf fishing that would go 300-400 pounds. I have also heard about catfish the size of volkswagons at the toledobend damn when i was in high school.
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Originally posted by bobad: Originally posted by possumeater:
Personally I like not knowing. Maybe the only downside to pond fishing?
I can certainly see where the legends come from. Murky water, claustrophobic feeling, adrenalin pumping, then SOMETHING REALLY BIG brushes by you... Not to worry. Us PMs still have mist demons, wind sprites, man-eating Redears ... the list goes on and on.
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Man, it's not just in reservoirs that these monsters scare divers...I've heard many times about the same thing happening on the navigation (lock &) dams here on the mighty Mississippi.
Must be a WHOLE buncha them giants out there. :rolleyes:
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I thinks it's the same fish Matt. He just gets around.
I think he drives a VW...
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...but he outta be gettin' old enough to just die already, hadn't he?
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Well he really shouldn't be driving still, but nobody has the heart to take away his keys.
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Reminds me of my grandma, back before she passed...
All of 5'4", maybe 95 lbs...in her great big ol' Tornado...
"Can't hear...can't see. Thank God I can still drive." :p
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I don't know about cat's that big, but i have seen large gar, and know they get big enough to scare me from diving in some lakes in Texas. Take a look at this link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_gar
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