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nice read shorty, thanks.....regarding the mass budgets of CO2 and other “global warming” gasses, i never brought up volcanoes in my earlier posts about the natural causes and affects on earth's meteorological condition for a couple reasons. but here are some things to consider.

much like solar spot activity, volcanic activity on earth is cyclical. unlike with solar spot activity though, i do have an understanding of where we are in time with regard to major volcanic eruptions. those that have been witnessed in recorded history are largely trivial, yet they still clearly affect earth’s atmosphere. the study of ancient tuff deposits (volcanic ash) around the world reveals the existence of volcanic systems and associated past eruptions of nearly unimaginable magnitude. as an example, Mt. St. Helens produced about ~0.75 cubic kilometers of material during the initial blast in 1980 (a kilometer is about 6/10 of a mile, so think of about a half a cubic mile of material). compare this to the Long Valley Caldera eruption of 600,000 years ago on the east side of the Sierras which produced over 600 cubic kilometers of material in ONE eruption, the ash deposits of which can be found in Pennsylvania. or the Yellowstone eruptions (two calderas) that combined for well over 1,000 cubic kilometers of erupted material. or the Valles Caldera in New Mexico which was in between the size of Long Valley and the combined Yellowstone eruptions (the Valles formed the Bandelier Tuff….you guys may know Bandelier monument near Los Alamos). Tambora, referenced in shorty’s article, is also another one of these super volcanic systems still very active today. In fact, once these large systems were discovered (back in the late 50’s and early 60’s), they have been found all over the world, but there has not been a “super eruption” for 100s of thousands of years, and it may be several 100’s of thousands of years before the next one.

Just try to imagine the magnitude of change that would occur after one of these eruptions……i.e. no more bread basket in the Midwest fellas and world wide climates severely altered for decades. One of my points is that even with these types of eruptions the largest budget of CO2 still remains in the oceans……historic evidence of the vast storage of the CO2 is observed in the huge thicknessess of (now) continental limestone deposits, like those in Nevada, Utah, Colorado etc. The corollary point here is that the small scale warming and cooling events described over the last 200 years are a) trivial with regard to those in the past b) easily brought about by small scale volcanic activity, c) likely affected or even caused by outside influences such as cyclical changes in solar spot activity, and d) largely controlled by changes in the ocean temps which control the largest mass of CO2 on earth……a warming ocean releases more CO2, a cooling ocean holds more back…….well that was fun……sorry…..i’ll go away now.

edited post..wait, sunny, and 70 degrees in el dorado, cold front and rain expected by sunday evening, otherwise spring weather on hand.

Cabin fever,
Ya'll got it bad...how much snow did you get,or do you want to go on another tangent off into left field?
Dawson tx no snow,well to be honest we did get 7 or8 flakes

We have 30-40 mph winds with snow, though the temperature is balmy at 18 degrees.

How great is that?

I'm no Al Gore fan but he didn't say he invented the internet. It's an urban legend probably made up by a poltical opponent.

Cecil, I will check with Al's political advisors to see if we can release that he actually did lay claim to inventing the internet in the 2000 campaign. He certainly has never rebuked the notion. Maybe we can get 'softball' Matthews to ask him point blank...yea, right.

Cecil Baird1 – Snopes.com as a source of truth :rolleyes:

That is your best LOL LMAO too funny!!

BLITZER: I want to get to some of the substance of domestic and international issues in a minute, but let's just wrap up a little bit of the politics right now.

Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley, a friend of yours, a former colleague in the Senate? What do you have to bring to this that he doesn't necessarily bring to this process?

GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.

But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.

An interview with none other than Wolf Blitzer.

Like I said I'm no Al Gore fan and you can make fun of me if you want. But sorry I don't believe in urban legends and I don't believe in conspiracies. Something about being lied to bothers me.

You won't hear from me on this again. This is too good of a site to be bringing up politics which I did not. So knock it off.

i got another 3" last night we got about 10" on the ground but the wind has piled it convieniently into 4 foot drifts down the 1/4 mile driveway. thats a pain to snowblow through.

We got another 3-4 inches last night, too, along with big wind. However, the 7-day forecast is for warm weather, so it seems the snow will be short-lived. Good winter for our ponds this year! Not too long.

Yep, with ya Dr. Dave. About 4 more inches last night...but...we are gonna be pushin well into the 40's by mid/end of next week. This, along with Punxatauney Phil's prediction for an early spring, have my mind reeling with more pond development projects. Time to scrutinize the check book and see what unimportant daily staple needs are gonna get nix'd.
(edit)...just watched the 5 o'clock news. Weather forecast has next Saturday at 50 degrees!

You don't need to eat EVERY day, do ya?

I'm gonna need a better line; Donna-ski is onto that one. She's already cuttin' back on my allowance. Ya know, I think it's time to call in the experts. Yep, I need to pay a visit to the PB clinic and get some much needed support on the Re-prioritization thread .

It snowed last night and all day here too, but not much seemed to stick on the ground. My first order of tree seedlings arrived Thursday afternoon, and since the ground wasn't frozen I planted today. Got 15 white ash trees planted before the dibble bar broke. (Aren't they supposed to be virtually indestructible?) Tried to borrow my neighbors but he wasn't home, so I welded up the broken one at my father-in-law's house. Got another 100 trees planted before it broke again, and had to heel in the rest of the trees including all my big red oaks An order of white & loblolly pine trees are going to be here in a couple days so I need a dibble. Going to borrow my neighbor's and see if I can get a new one too.

One interesting find today .. found a small 10 point non-typical antler shed in the field this morning.

Eric