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#67688 04/04/06 09:32 AM
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The url listed below contains 1) a synopsis of the experiment 2) pictures of each sampling event including initial on Dec. 3 '05, end of Dec. '05, Feb. '06, and April '06, followed by a summary data table.

If there are any questions on the approach or if the data is unreadable, please advise.

http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.js...7&Uy=ravcw&Ux=0

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Were you able to catch any of the HBG to do a comparison?

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DD,

Sorry don't understand the question...the pictures shown are of the TGG's. I don't have any other HBG on my place other than the TGG's. I have CNBG and native BG in other ponds. Are the pictures visible to you?

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Robinson,

As stated on the synopsis page, the pond is 1/4 acre and designed for Kid's fishing. Are the pictures visible?

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Pretty exciting to finally see a photo of GG's.

ML, when these fish get up to 7+ inches, which I'm sure is gonnna be pretty dang quick, can you get a closer picture of the head?

Thanks,

Bruce


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#67693 04/04/06 10:07 AM
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Bruce, they are already over 7 inches...the average is 7.3 inches right now. The largest of the three fish sample shown was 7.5 inches. I will try to accomodate your request for a "head" shot.

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ML, I thought you had HBG, not HSB in there. Guess I need to learn to read.

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 Quote:
Originally posted by Robinson:

I'll read a little closer, as I'm under the impression that there are largemouth bass also, to pick off any spawn.
No LMB present...unless delivered by a bird. \:\)

The whole point of stocking an aggressive predator was to reduce/eliminate the Fx generations for pond sustainability....just as Deb has stated many times.

We have a long ways to go before ANY conclusions can be reached.

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ML, I think you are going to have some very happy kids when they "discover" this pond.


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Ml, if you have the same results as I did with GG they will grow alot this first summer
Good Luck
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Robinson, why is it an artificial environment; HBG and HSB is the common recommended stocking strategy. "because of the 40 hybrids, which are rare to virtually non existant in most southeastern US ponds, ". What does this mean? They can be stocked in any pond in the Southeast. of course, as anywhere else, they are not naturally occurring.
Go fishing, or tell about your pond or something. \:D


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Now, now, boys, keep playing nice. Here in Ohio ANY pond is an "artificial environment,", seeing as how the state has ONE natural lake.

BTW, ML, it has been implied but not mentioned that your link shows 6 screens of data. Text is legible, photos look good. When I get home I will compare photo resolution from Feb pic with the E-Mail version, may download the April pic to blow it up.


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Way cool...even I understand it (must be because it was geared to a kid's GG pond). I start to read most of the threads you fish-nutz dissect, and my head spins. I keep a paper bag next to the keyboard, JIC. So far the ML GG EXP is v interesting to even the fish neophyte.

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Theo,

I'm kind of proud of that April picture...not being a skilled camera person...and getting three flopping fish to hold still and smile at the same time. \:\)

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ML, any worries on HSB in such a small pond? Wouldn't a pond that small get very warm unless you have a spring or well?

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ML:

Three at once is more than I try to photograph, unless they're on a stringer. I spend an average of 3 shots to usually get a decent picture of one live fish (even the ones that I'm getting ready to clean).

PI:

You'd better add "and for the young at heart" to that statement. Every time my bobber goes under, part of me is 6 again.


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 Quote:
Originally posted by bobad:
ML, any worries on HSB in such a small pond? Wouldn't a pond that small get very warm unless you have a spring or well?
Bobad,

Yes, that is definitely a concern and coupled with no aeration and shallow water in that pond will make this a very difficult test for both the HSB and the TGG's. If they can survive this environment through the Texas summers, then they can survive most anything.

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Night aeration is forthcoming? ML, check your email.


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Is there some trick ta view the pics?


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Bob-o - Use this link:

http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.js...7&Uy=ravcw&Ux=0

A new screen should appear. Above the original image on the right side is three buttons. "play' and two arrows "<" ">" ! Click on the far arrow and you should go to the next photo which is the stocked size GG. Keep clicking the same arrow untill you have seen all the photos. If that does not work type colonmadcolon (a colon is ":") Hope this helps. \:\)

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Does anyone have a "textbook" answer as to what the normal growth rate is for regular BG? I know it has a wide variability depending on several factors. I would like to have a benchmark comparison to the data I am seeing and recording. I'm recording it as "growth rate in inches per day" but can easily convert it to any units. Thanks for any info.

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ML :

Look at this link which is BG RW and it is a place to start. I will see what else I can find. Chart is at the end of the article.

http://www.lakework.com/articles.php
















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Yes, I have RW tables for BG but was looking specifically for growth rates correlated to age. Thanks.

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I thought so and will see what I can find. I know it will vary based on location and conditions.
















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PI said,"Easily eating sized, but I don't recall them being as big as the GG's in your picture. Then again, the ones I have seen were not on a regular feeding program. " What, is he softening up, nah, he puts a disclaimer about the feeding program.
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