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#63954 03/29/06 02:27 PM
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Eddie, what I was trying to discribe would be identical to what you already have except the valve would not be necessary. Everything would be burried below ground except there would be two lines running to the creek beyond the manifold. The manifold would not tie back into it self it would become two lines after it. The intake line from the pond would be the one that continues to the creek and is plugged or valved on the end the other would remain open as is now. You would not have to be concerned with building a box to get to the valve. Not that it matters now anyway and like I said what you have is great as is. The fall back of doing it like I discribe is the elevation of the pond to the creek and the distance from the pond to the creek. If the creek is far away then so would the stand pipe have to be to limit the amount of pipe required sense it would be doubled beyhond the manifold. That is why I stated the manifold would have to be located towards the end of the run. If the elevation drop is large then stand pipe would have to be long enough to make it up. This in it self might be a reason not to do it this way anyway. Good luck and I hope the rain stays away long enough so you can finish. My pond is currently on hold because of the rain forcast. The contractor already had to pump out water from the last 6" rain and fill the hole back in with 2 feet of dirt to prevent it from filling again if it rains as forcast. They want to be sure they have at least 3 dry days to finish digging it to depth and plug the middle of the damm and install the drop structure.



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Rocky,

Thanks for the clarification. Your design is different than what I've seen before.

There are two main reasons I installed the drain. I want to be able to adjust the water level and I want to have the ability to totally drain the entire lake if I want to. The valve makes this a very simple task.

I'm worried about plants along the shoreline. I have the dam at 3:1 to minimize plant growth, but from what I've seen in other ponds, I know this can be a problem.

With the valve, I can drop the water level several feet and kill the plants without affecting the fish or overall look of the lake.

If I know a really big storm is comeing, I can also lower the water level several feet before it hits. A few years ago we had 12 inches of rain in a week. The runnoff afer the second and third days was unbelievable!! We can also get 5 inches of rain in a single storm!!!! Rare, but it happens.

I don't know why I would want to drain the lake, but I like haveing that option. I know I'm taking a chance with my springs and leaving them open. This very well could turn out to be a huge mistake. With the valve, I can drain and pack them if I have to.

The disadvantage to your method that I see in my mind is closig the cap after it's been opened. With the water coming out, it will be very dificult to put the cap back on. It will also be hard to maintain a good seal with plastic threads after a few usus. How many times will plastic threads maintain their integrity? I don't know, but I do know there is a short life span for them.

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#63956 04/16/06 10:12 PM
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Eddie,

Any more sweet pics? Did you dig your entire pond with a Backhoe vs. Excavator...?

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Justin,

I have a 3/4 acre pond that I dug five feet with my backhoe. The digging was the easy part, getting rif of the dirt took forever!!!

This projects is dependent on my dozer. I've been learning about turbo's and blowby the last several months, plus a few other projects. Nothing as exiting as moving dirt and finishing off the dam.

I did have a visitor over the weekend. It's not a native bird, and it's not afraid of people. It just wouldn't let us get closer than about a dozen feet.

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#63958 05/01/06 02:56 PM
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Hey, you raise egyptian geese? Or is that a neighbors?

Quite beautiful animals, but they are quite expensive to buy. I don't have money for exotics.



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It's been a few months and allot of wasted time, but I've finally figured out what is wrong with my dozer.

It has a Cummins 8.3 turbo diesel engine. The turbo went out and I thought it was teh problem. Nope, turns out one of the compression rings broke and ruined the sleeve for the cylinder.

All the sleeves have some wear to them, so they are all coming out and while I'm at it, I'll just rebuild the entire engine.

Not what I wanted to do, nor something that I really know what I'm doing, but I need the dozer to finish my lake and work on my land. I'm too cheap to hire the repairs, so it's up to me to get it done.

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#63960 05/11/06 08:31 AM
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Eddie,

I admire your persistence and, in my experience in life, have found that such great persistence generally is rewarded with great things. I hope that to be the case with you and your project.


Now, after re-building that dozer and finishing your lake, you are interested in getting rid of that bag of bolts, I might be interested in taking it off your hands. ;\)

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Hi Meadowlark,

Thanks for the kind words and encouragment!!

There's nothing more that I'd like than to not have a dozer anymore!!! hahahaha

But like you said, I need to finish off some projects first.

Eddie


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#63962 05/14/06 09:37 AM
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Case has the rebuild kit with pistons, cylinder sleeves, wrist pins, bearings, rings and gaskets for $2,100. I'm buying new injector nozzles for $78 each, new exhaust bolts, new thermastats and all new water lines. I'll be into this for just under $3,000 and have a new engine for it.

My Dad had an RV with a 5.9 Cummins in it abuout ten years ago that needed a rebuild. The cost for that was $8,000

I don't know what it would cost to hire somebody to do my 8.3 Cummins, but that's sort of the number I'd expect.

Here is the tool I made to pully the cylinder sleeves and one of me on the dozer using it.

I will get my lake dug, I just have no idea when.
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#63963 05/28/06 09:13 AM
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I'm still working on the dozer, but have started makeing progress. The rebuild kit didn't include wrist pin bushings, and there was some slop in mine, so I had to order them from Atlanta. Then I ruined the first one trying to put them in myself, so I had to reorder another one. The machine shop said they'd never seen them that bad before. The mechanics I spoke to said they don't replace those bushings and just reuse them.

What I think happened is the piston was moving around on the bushing which resulted in the massive tapper on the cylinder walls. Number six was the worse, and when it got so bad, the rings broke. This explains why I had the huge blowby issue come up all of a sudden.

The worse of it is over now. Sleeves are in, pistons are in and the head is on. Now I need to put on the rocker arems, adjust the valves and start putting the rest of the parts back on.

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It's not how many ideas you have, but how many you make happen.

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#63965 05/28/06 09:22 AM
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Sorry about the pictures. I copied and pasted the wrong link from photo bucket.

One of the side benifits to not working on the lake site is that I've created a natural food plot for animals. We're seeing allot more deer now in there feeding on the new grass and plants.

Wednesday evening we were watching 4 deer when this wild hog showed up. My girlfriend has shot one hog before, and it was a small one. This one is around 150 pounds. Not bad for her second hog.

Eddie




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#63966 05/31/06 11:02 PM
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I started the dozer today and drove it off the ramps. I still have a few more things to put back on, but it looks like I got it fixed and can stard digging my lake again real soon!!!

Eddie






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WOW! That is great Eddie! That is some accomplishment! You are the man when it comes to tenacity and diesel mechanics.


Please no more rain for a month! :|
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Eddie,


Be sure to give me first crack at that bucket of bolts. ;\) ...when you try to unload it.

One consolation, you really haven't lost that much lake time anyway because of the lack of rains.

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Eddie,

I am tremendously impressed with your pond and the work you’ve done from designing your pipe system and handling the engine rebuild!! I look forward to you future postings. This thread has been a great read. Also, a great looking girlfriend that likes to hunt; you da man.

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Flatlander,

Haven't seen you on the board in quite awhile. Glad to see you are still with us. On a side note, how did the family homestead (Mississippi)do during last years hurricanes? I think thats the last time we heard from you.


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Russ :

Don't know how Flatlander's home place came through but the Natchez area in general came through the storms ok.
















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Thanks Eric. Hopefully all is well.

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Flatlander,

Thank you. As of yesterday, she is no longer my girlfriend, but now she is my fiance!!!

The dozer is running strong and I've spent ten hours running it fairly easy by scraping my roads and a pasture. Sort of just smoothing out some stuff without stressing the engine too much to break it in. I know ten hours aint much on a diesel, but I'm a nervous nelly about it. hahaha

I have a few things to do this weekend and plan to start digging again on Monday. I'll post some pictures as I make progress.

Thanks,
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Congratulations !! Have you set a date. Best wishes for a wonderful life together. Patience and remember the count rule. Any time you start to get mad -- stop and count to ten before you speak or act. \:\)
















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Eddie,

My congrats on your dozer...oh, and on the other thing too! ;\)

I hope you will invite me out to see your finished lake next spring when I return to Tyler Fish Farms. I would really like to see it and congratulate you in person for all your accomplishments.

p.s. if the timing is good for you and you are interested, I would love to help you stock the big lake next spring. Just let me know.

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Eddie shares the great news (and it trumps the news that the dozer is kickin' again)
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As of yesterday, she is no longer my girlfriend, but now she is my fiance!!!
Congrat's, big time. If you keep this thread alive, you can post the wedding pix right here! :p ;\) (I'll bet takin' down that hog with one shot tipped the scale )
...super happy for da bote a ya's!

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You beat me to the punch, Brettski. If you cant outshoot 'em, you better marry 'em. Congrats, Eddie, and thanks for sharing the construction pics. I have learned a lot for if I ever get to rebuild mine.


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Thanks for the kind words. We're looking for places to get married right now and leaning towards the mountains in Colorado or Wyoming.

In the meantime,I've been digging!!!




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