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#63512 01/18/06 04:32 AM
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Will pellet lime work for liming a pond? If not, which type do you recommend? Thanks for your advice.

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Yep works just fine it is CaCo3, just cost lots more. At $4/ 50 lb bag it would be $160/ton. Not sure of your pond size but we rec. 4 tons/acre if you have low alk. So you can see if need a few tons at $160/$30-$40 in bulk it can get expensive in a hurry. Talk to local feed store about bulk lime.


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I had 5 tons delivered and spread in Nov. by the local co-op for $195 dollars. I was very pleased with it as it was more finely ground that I thought it would be. Call the co-op.


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I have used pelletized lime a number of times. It works fine. I use it when the lime trucks are delayed by weather or schedule or for locations where the trucks can't get. I prefer ag. lime in bulk as Greg says. One thing to check is the strength. Some pelletized lime is 2 to 3x stronger than ag. lime so that needs to be checked and factored into the amounts. Pelletized lime is not hydrated lime which we do not use for general purposes. It is discussed in the link below.

Here is a good link on lime from Univ. of Fla.:

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/FA028
















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This thread doesn't apply to lime, just throwing it out for brain fodder.
http://www.pondboss.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=16;t=000035

Greg, BM and ewest have all stated their success with pelletized lime but I'm curious what the binding agent is??

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Russ :

Here is the info on limestone pellet binders. While I see why it may concern someone who is using one of the binders with gyp. to clear a pond it does not look like they would cause a problem when used for acidity reduction. The binders add material to the water col. but are natural and dissolve. It looks like they are made of wood ,or plant or natural material.

3. DESCRIPTION OF BINDERS
Binders and their properties have been previously described in detail in various
articles including previous Mars Mineral papers (see reference list). Below is a brief
description of general binder types:
Lignosulfonate – A cellulose-based organic component of trees that comes as a byproduct
of the paper making industry. It is generated by a chemical pulping process and
is a non-toxic fluid with levels of dissolved and/or suspended solids. Lignins from the
sulfite pulping process are called Lignosulfonates and will dissolve in water. They are
used for their binding, dispersing, and emulsifying properties. Since the source of lignin
is trees, their physical properties will vary by the type of trees processed (i.e. hardwood,
softwood, etc.).
Brewex – An organic modified starch brewery by-product containing glucose, maltose,
and maltodextrin. It is an evaporative product derived from beer production residuals
containing the above carbohydrates, protein, and water.
Molasses – An organic by-product of cane or beet sugar refining. It is a residual heavy
syrup left after the crystallization process. Cane molasses is derived as a by-product
from fermentation industries (which use cane molasses) or from the production of
alcohol, yeast, citric acid or other fermentation products.
Blends - Blends of molasses, whey, and lignin are available and some have been
included in these tests.


http://www.marsmineral.com/pdf/BindersForLimestone.pdf
















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Ewest as always great info!


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Thanks Ewest!

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Ewest...your the best! Looking to do some limeing in Thailand, your research and input to this forum remains premier!


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Russ :

I did not even know there were binders before you so advised. Thanks for the heads up.

Don :

Thanks for the kind words. How is the warm season down there? How is the Asia weather? Is it all mixed up? I read today that Russia was having an extreme cold spell like - 36 for days , cold even for them.
















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One place in Siberia had -70 yesterday without wind chill, just temp. brrrr



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