Hi guys as some of you know our pond's in Boone County but I live and work in Los Angeles. We're on shelter-in-place. I shut down my lab and sent my staff home for two months (with pay). Stay safe out there, stay clean, and stay home if you can, please.
10-4 bro...be safe, wish you were in Boone county...grateful for your efforts to take care of your employees...you're a model - hunker down and ping me for fishery goals this season...you're a fellow SMB addict, right?
Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. ~ Henry David Thoreau
That's correct. The respiratory issues with COVID-19 are are caused by a virus. Azithromycin is kinda sorta a ramped up Amoxicillin, and both are for upper body bacterial infections.
Al take a look at this story....it's interesting.
"A new study whose results were published in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents has found early evidence that the combination of hydroxychloroquine, a popular anti-malaria drug known under the trade name Plaqenuil, and antibiotic azithromycin (aka Zithromax or Azithrocin) could be especially effective in treating the COVID-19 coronavirus and reducing the duration of the virus in patients"
riots/looting? I'm maintaining hope we don't go "baboon" that quickly
TJ 3 weeks ago I bought some shotgun shells on AmmoToGo.com, today I tried to buy more. Every single 12 gauge shell they sell was SOLD OUT.
Originally Posted by teehjaeh57
CDC predicts mid to late May until policies should be "eased"...if we collectively go to pot that quickly, hard to imagine what things will emerge in 6-8 weeks. Do you feel it getting edgy out there? What's your gut feeling? Over-reaction?
I was feeling pretty optimistic until I read this doom and gloom story today....I don't buy it....but we must prepare....but if it blows up that big....things could very rough.....very rough...not so much from the virus but from economic issues.
I’m going to trust science and trust humanity. If for no other reason than the positive intention aspect of it. I’m a firm believer that will impact our direction - but yes, important to be prepared. I’m grateful I live in the Midwest during these times.
Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. ~ Henry David Thoreau
wbuffetjr...even if the figures from China were ten times worse than they report, it would be about like annual flu deaths in US.
We are 5-6 times more population than Italy and it still would not be anywhere near 2.5 million deaths...it would be around 21,000 or less than annual US flu deaths. Plus Italy has one of the highest elderly populations in Europe.
China may not have Panama Beach, but tens of millions live in very close quarters and many live in squalor.
Again.. it is a very serious situation...yes corona is more contagious than flu....
But with the flu and corona the vast majority do not require hospitalization and do not die from it.
I just think we need to take a lot of precaution, but not shut down the economy.
Zep - trust me I do not want to shut down the economy. We are doing our second round of lay offs today. My wife and I own a restaurant so you can imagine how directly we are impacted.
Having said that...
China is more prepared for something like this than the US or Europe. Yes they may live in squalor, but they are veterans when it comes to this kind of stuff. The infectious disease shows up and out come the masks, etc.
You said "We are 5-6 times more population than Italy and it still would not be anywhere near 2.5 million deaths...it would be around 21,000 or less than annual US flu deaths." I would say Italy is basically only 4 weeks into this thing. I also read Italy has 3.2 hospital beds per 1,000 people. The US has 2.8 beds per 1,000. I think it will take much less than we realize to over run the health system and that's when things will start to get really bad.
They have said China's possible first patient was possibly in November. Unfortunately, I think things are going to get much worse before they get better. Look at Spain - they have 4% of China's population and they are fast approaching 50% of the deaths in China. Either China is lying or they are better at dealing with this than the rest of the world.
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More and more cities are going into lockdown here in the USA. Better to do it now rather than later I think. Zep, it's tough not to worry about how our economy is going to handle it. My financial guy has called me three or four times in the last 10 days suggesting to me to buy and buy more stock. It's a once in a generation opportunity he says. Most every time he calls the market will drop again. Heck, it's hard for me not to sell, sell, sell. But I have faith that the USA economy will work it all out, so plans are to stay the course. Keep the faith
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My financial guy has called me three or four times in the last 10 days suggesting to me to buy and buy more stock. It's a once in a generation opportunity he says. Most every time he calls the market will drop again. Heck, it's hard for me not to sell, sell, sell. Keep the faith
Tracy...I hear ya. Alaska Airlines is a stock I watch. It had been near $70 a share in December. So when I saw it in the mid-thirties last week I jumped in...but got scared the next day and jumped out....glad I did because now it's at $23.56. Baron Rothschild an 18th-century British nobleman and member of the Rothschild banking family, is credited with saying something like "the time to buy is when there's blood in the streets". But good grief that takes guts. The Oct 11, 2007...crash the worst since the great depression...everybody freaked and sold....but if they had held....the market was back to basically the same level within 18 months. Hard to tell how and when this Corona Crash will end and play out.
Zep - trust me I do not want to shut down the economy. We are doing our second round of lay offs today. My wife and I own a restaurant so you can imagine how directly we are impacted.
Sorry to hear that wbuffetjr....I know it is really bad for restaurants. In Dallas they are trying to be creative with take-out and actually selling eggs and stuff....I am afraid if this lasts very long...most of them won't make enough to weather this storm. The governor is even allowing them to deliver alcohol drinks if someone orders food.
Originally Posted by wbuffetjr
Having said that... I would say Italy is basically only 4 weeks into this thing. I also read Italy has 3.2 hospital beds per 1,000 people. The US has 2.8 beds per 1,000. I think it will take much less than we realize to over run the health system and that's when things will start to get really bad.
It is interesting that "99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness", Italy Says. I think Italy has the highest aged population in Europe.
From The Weather Channel Android App: https://weather.com/news/trending/v...thing-this-radar-caught?pl=pl-the-latest This has nothing to do with CORONA but it is interesting. I know alot of you fellas live in Texas so you might have already heard about this before. Up here in kansas we dont see many bats. We have them come out at night a few times a year but never see huge masses of them anywhere.
That's correct. The respiratory issues with COVID-19 are are caused by a virus. Azithromycin is kinda sorta a ramped up Amoxicillin, and both are for upper body bacterial infections.
Al take a look at this story....it's interesting.
"A new study whose results were published in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents has found early evidence that the combination of hydroxychloroquine, a popular anti-malaria drug known under the trade name Plaqenuil, and antibiotic azithromycin (aka Zithromax or Azithrocin) could be especially effective in treating the COVID-19 coronavirus and reducing the duration of the virus in patients"
Yes, I've seen that. Various labs are trying different angles at this. Let's hope one is shown to work after proper testing. Inadequate testing can result in drugs like thalidomide, and we don't want that.
At this point, I'm out of my comfort zone. Maybe RAH will know more about the testing process.
"Dr. Paul Auwaerter, the Clinical Director for the Division of Infectious Diseases at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine echoes this finding, “If you have a COVID-19 patient in your household, your risk of developing the infection is about 10%….If you were casually exposed to the virus in the workplace your chance of infection is about 0.5%”. According to Dr. Auwaerter, these transmission rates are very similar to the seasonal flu. There isn’t a single death reported below the age of 10 in the world and most children who test positive don’t show symptoms. 93% of people who think they are positive aren’t and 95% of people who are tested aren’t positive.1% of cases will be severe. Globally, 80–85% of all cases are mild. These will not require a hospital visit and home-based treatment/ no treatment is effective"
It occurred to me that this "leveling the curve," delaying the full onset of the virus on our populace, also gains time for folk who would get sick and need ameliorative drugs and vaccines, not yet available.
"Dr. Paul Auwaerter, the Clinical Director for the Division of Infectious Diseases at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine echoes this finding, “If you have a COVID-19 patient in your household, your risk of developing the infection is about 10%….If you were casually exposed to the virus in the workplace your chance of infection is about 0.5%”. According to Dr. Auwaerter, these transmission rates are very similar to the seasonal flu. There isn’t a single death reported below the age of 10 in the world and most children who test positive don’t show symptoms. 93% of people who think they are positive aren’t and 95% of people who are tested aren’t positive.1% of cases will be severe. Globally, 80–85% of all cases are mild. These will not require a hospital visit and home-based treatment/ no treatment is effective"
I agree Zep. At this point there is so much conflicting information out there it makes it difficult to be correctly informed.
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I've been battling Lymes on and off since August '15. The last regimen of medications I was on was 500mg of Azithromycin and 400mg of Chloroquine daily for several months back in 2019.
So that combo has been around for a while as some kind of knock-out punch.
I see a few states have gone for the (30) day in-home plan.
Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:" "She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."
Zep I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. I understand you, because even up to a month ago I said more or less the same things, but the reality is, unfortunately, very different. It is not an influence. Not only the elderly die (and even if it were, it wouldn't seem good news to me anyway); it seems only because they are the first to die, being weaker and often already sick, but now young and healthy are also dying. We are running out of beds in intensive care and building brand new dedicated structures everywhere. Doctors and nurses are getting infected. Even asymptomatics are contagious and many of those who heal still have permanent lung damage. The transmissibility is much greater than the flu, not to mention that there is no vaccine for covid and it is a "new" and more lethal virus. The world would not have been blocked if it were less of an influence.This is a real confirmed and official pandemic. Here we've been in for two months. The first case was discovered a month ago. Yesterday evening the prime minister decreed the almost total lockdown of all non-fundamental activities, because despite the blockade a little less drastic of 10 days ago there were no drops in the number of infections, but both the infected and the dead increased of all ages. 6 people I know have tested positive. 2 have already died without being able to even greet their loved ones and without a funeral (78, 59), 3 are in intensive care and 1 is asymptomatic in quarantine at home. I don't want to teach anyone anything, but if you don't trust me, read the official and reliable sources globally. Stay home. For you, for your loved ones, for doctors and nurses, for everyone.
ItalyBass....I will be the first to say...like you...I am not a doctor or a "scientist"....so you are correct in that "I" don't know what I am talking about, but I beg to differ with you that my sources "don't know what they are talking about". Just yesterday a source was Dr. Paul Auwaerter the Clinical Director for the Division for Infectious Diseases at John Hopkins University School of Medicine. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/profiles/results/directory/profile/0000525/paul-auwaerter
I am very sorry about the tragic situation in Italy. I sincerely hope the Italian people see an improvement soon and the infection and mortality rates begin their decline as we have seen in China, South Korea, Taiwan..etc.. Be safe and God Bless.
zep, that was the daily dosage. The main side effect was the sh*ts.
ItalyBASS, your updates are much appreciated. We're praying for you.
Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:" "She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."