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#472431 - 05/21/17 08:36 PM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: canyoncreek]
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Registered: 10/19/14
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Loc: Boone County Illinois
Welcome to PBF Keifer!

I suggest you send a Private Message (PM) to Teehjaeh57 here on the forum. Super nice guy, always willing to help folks and the resident expert on Soil-Floc. If you don't know how to send a PM just click on his name a few post back and send a Private message will pop up as an option.

Good Luck and again welcome!

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#472435 - 05/21/17 09:48 PM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: canyoncreek]
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Registered: 04/18/15
Posts: 43
Loc: East Texas
Sad weekend as I found myself mowing my pond, yes that's right the water level is at an all time low, so much so that I had to mow it. The pond is 30-40 yrs old, 1/2 acre surrounded by trees. I've owned the property two years and have watched the water level fluctuate drastically. Lucky for me we were getting rain pretty regularly, so it hadn't been that bad although I knew it was losing water at a pretty high rate. As of last summer we've been in somewhat of a drought. All the heavy rains keep missing us. The water level has hit an all time low and now I'm wondering what can I do to "fix" it. Is this a situation where I have to dig out the pond and add clay? Or Would Soil-Floc work here? As the water has drained I can see the pond was dug with three deeper pools separated by flat ridges. The water in all three pools seem to lower at the same rate which tells me the water is seeping into the ground. The shallowest pool is only a foot deep as of today. Following are some photos. One is from a month ago and the second is the freshly mowed pond. Any thoughts?





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#472445 - 05/22/17 02:44 AM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: Bill D.]
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Originally Posted By: Bill D.
Welcome to PBF Keifer!

I suggest you send a Private Message (PM) to Teehjaeh57 here on the forum. Super nice guy, always willing to help folks and the resident expert on Soil-Floc. If you don't know how to send a PM just click on his name a few post back and send a Private message will pop up as an option.

Good Luck and again welcome!

Bill D.


Thanks Bill - reaching out to Keifer now. Thank you for supporting Pond Boss partners!!

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#472446 - 05/22/17 02:45 AM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: L's Pond]
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Originally Posted By: L's Pond
Sad weekend as I found myself mowing my pond, yes that's right the water level is at an all time low, so much so that I had to mow it. The pond is 30-40 yrs old, 1/2 acre surrounded by trees. I've owned the property two years and have watched the water level fluctuate drastically. Lucky for me we were getting rain pretty regularly, so it hadn't been that bad although I knew it was losing water at a pretty high rate. As of last summer we've been in somewhat of a drought. All the heavy rains keep missing us. The water level has hit an all time low and now I'm wondering what can I do to "fix" it. Is this a situation where I have to dig out the pond and add clay? Or Would Soil-Floc work here? As the water has drained I can see the pond was dug with three deeper pools separated by flat ridges. The water in all three pools seem to lower at the same rate which tells me the water is seeping into the ground. The shallowest pool is only a foot deep as of today. Following are some photos. One is from a month ago and the second is the freshly mowed pond. Any thoughts?






Hi, feel free to reach out and can help with some direction whether it's re-engineering, liner, or polymer application. Happy to help!

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#472563 - 05/23/17 04:14 PM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: L's Pond]
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Registered: 11/20/11
Posts: 1994
Loc: East Bloomfield, NY USA
Do you see tree roots in the pond? They are thirsty too! If the trees are pulling water from the pond, I don't think Soil-Floc will stop them. You may wish to "thin the herd" a little of the trees surrounding the pond to lower their consumption. Target the broad-leaved deciduous before targeting pines. Maples and willows are the worst offenders with "drinking" water.

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#472567 - 05/23/17 07:05 PM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: liquidsquid]
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Registered: 10/30/13
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Loc: NE Missouri
Originally Posted By: liquidsquid
Do you see tree roots in the pond? They are thirsty too! If the trees are pulling water from the pond, I don't think Soil-Floc will stop them. You may wish to "thin the herd" a little of the trees surrounding the pond to lower their consumption. Target the broad-leaved deciduous before targeting pines. Maples and willows are the worst offenders with "drinking" water.


I've got 100 yr old, oaks, hickories, and maples right up to the edge of my pond. I'm sure they have a negative effect on the water level, as well as dumping in millions of leaves every fall, but they are nice to look at, and I can always find a shady spot to float, no matter what time of day, or year.
FYI, I followed CC's plan for putting down SF. It's a great way to keep track of where you've been, and how even your application is. The SF slowed down my leak by 50%. I think if I was doing it over, I would double the application rate. I threw a red plastic cup of A & B, plus a cup of bentonite to help it sink, for every 4' of distance covered.
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#494327 - 07/27/18 06:51 PM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: canyoncreek]
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Registered: 07/27/18
Posts: 1
Loc: TX
Have a small pond that leaks into the sand layer just above the chalk layer at the bottom. How much Soilfloc should I use to stop the water from draining? How to apply it?
Pond dimensions:
[img]https://goo.gl/A1k3EV[/img]
Pond Photo:
[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/8DWRD8fiPc2SuguT8[/img]

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#494336 - 07/28/18 12:58 PM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: canyoncreek]
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Feel free to contact me anytime happy to help try and outline some solutions for you.

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#516072 - 01/24/20 03:25 PM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: canyoncreek]
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Came across this older thread and was curious about some things. Would this work better than adding alum & lime for clarity? Is the price close? Seems like this could help keep the cloudiness down in the long run. Since it creates kind of a shell. I have never used either but wanting to try something this summer if I can swing it in the budget.
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#516075 - 01/24/20 03:49 PM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: canyoncreek]
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Yes the linear polymer acts as a flocculant and binds suspended clay particles and drops to pond basin. It's used often to clear ponds without the worry of affecting PH like Alum does. Alum might be significantly cheaper though - one would have to perform research and compare before starting project.
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#516077 - 01/24/20 03:55 PM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: canyoncreek]
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Do you a know price per acre ratio? I had never thought of a sealer being a possible cure for my cloudiness before.
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#516083 - 01/24/20 09:03 PM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: canyoncreek]
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Until you remove fish species responsible for turbidity you will only be wasting time, money and effort on a temporary solution. If you want to talk sometime happy to connect. Email me anytime
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#516102 - 01/25/20 12:28 PM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: canyoncreek]
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Man TJ way to burst my bubble. That's means I cant have my cake and eat it too. Truth hurts sometimes.
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#516128 - 01/26/20 01:44 AM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: canyoncreek]
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Loc: NW Kansas
Have ya got Cats in there RS??
Figure about 150$ per ac ft for alum/hyd lime per Rex's Rate/acre for product. Mine was about 130/ac ft last year.


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#516131 - 01/26/20 09:59 AM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: canyoncreek]
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I sure do. Put in 100 eleven years ago when I had it dug. Only a out 5 - 10 left. Going to have a fry this summer and clean the rest out.
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#516135 - 01/26/20 01:33 PM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: canyoncreek]
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That will probably help things settle out some. The vis subdues the normal process so it'll take some time for changes to take place. This is the part I have trouble with but "be patient".
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#516138 - 01/26/20 09:28 PM Re: Soil-Floc, it continues to be an amazing product!! [Re: canyoncreek]
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Hospitals are 4 patient. Lol. I live with 5 females. Patients I have learned. But in the ponds case I might be able to help it out. 1st and 2nd things are get some vegetation going. When spring hits I'm going to be in the market for some plants if anyone has some 4 sale reasonable. Next thing is removing the cats. Iv got alot time invested in them. So I'm eating them if they like it or not. Then hopefully those 2 things help out. If results are not what I'm wanting then going chemical warfare on it.
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