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#516106 - 01/25/20 03:04 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: canyoncreek]
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We burnt the dam off last week, and it has become an annual task. Since the dam is on the south end of the pond, we always wait for a southerly wind before we do it. We burn off each end of the dam(which is about 1,100 feet) for about 10', and then let her rip. One might be amazed at the number on burning crap that rides the wind out 20'-30' into the pond.
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#516127 - 01/26/20 12:09 AM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: canyoncreek]
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After burning 10 mesquite brush piles last week I was anxious to replace them. Some mesquite were blocking my view of the field I cleared so I cut them down as well. 2 gas tanks through the Echo today.
Set a cloverleaf with beef liver while cutting and caught 2 7in BH, 3 nice BG and 2 YOY BG.
Then had a great ribeye curtsey of my generous neighbors.
Solid day.
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#516152 - 01/27/20 11:23 AM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: canyoncreek]
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#516154 - 01/27/20 11:46 AM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: Zep]
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Nice Zep

Put some more cedars in pond for crappie to hang around , whatís left that the big bass havenít eaten...... sure hope the surviving BCP have a successful spawn this year. Water clarity is around 2-3í now. Lots of surface splashing going on, donít know who is eating what at this point

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#516180 - 01/28/20 06:49 AM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: canyoncreek]
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Osprey continues to hang around the pond. Watched him circle the pond yesterday. But was discouraged by my Golden Retriever. It's funny to see when I tell Sam, "That bird is eating my fish" He then goes after any bird that is pointed out to him.

Pat, where and what water depth are you adding the cedars? I cut down and took about a dozen to the pond but not added them yet. Plans are to build a highway/travel path.


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#516183 - 01/28/20 09:09 AM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: TGW1]
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Pat, where and what water depth are you adding the cedars? I cut down and took about a dozen to the pond but not added them yet. Plans are to build a highway/travel path.


Tracy....do you weigh the cedars down with cinder blocks?
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#516184 - 01/28/20 09:18 AM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: Zep]
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Tracy some are in 5-7í and some wound up in 10í. Think that may be too deep? Itís hard to get them out there .... use a tractor with light rope and pull them across corners into water then use boat to take of rope and add sand bags to sink them. They cheaper to use than cinder blocks

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#516191 - 01/28/20 12:28 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: canyoncreek]
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How many cinder blocks dose it take to sink a 12 foot ceder tree?
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#516193 - 01/28/20 12:59 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: nehunter]
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2-3 or so depending on how long it has been cut... I put on in that was fresh cut and it sunk by itself

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#516194 - 01/28/20 01:01 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: Pat Williamson]
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Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Tracy some are in 5-7í and some wound up in 10í. Think that may be too deep? Itís hard to get them out there .... use a tractor with light rope and pull them across corners into water then use boat to take of rope and add sand bags to sink them. They cheaper to use than cinder blocks

I have caught some mighty nice trophy Crappie in the hotter part of the summer, way down deep, probably more then ten ft on some brush that I didnt know was there till I started hanging up on it, I could cast and let it drop way down twenty feet away and never get a bite but drop it in close to the brush, twelve ft deep, pulled a number of them out of there, and do it every summer, they love to go deep when it gets hot and if they have brush there, it seems they hang around close to it.
Its some of my best hot summer fishing.
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#516195 - 01/28/20 01:10 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: gehajake]
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Good to know, Iím not sure whatís going on in my 6 acre pond but the crappie used to be easy to catch anywhere you would fish( returned all back), now canít buy a crappie bite very often,abundant bass might be the problem. Sad thing is that I want them and donít know what the problem is. We have a good bloom all spring and summer long into winter.

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#516197 - 01/28/20 01:24 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: Pat Williamson]
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Pat W, I have seen a similar scenario in a 2 3 acre lake that I have fishing access to, Crappie are more and more rare, when you do catch some they will be excellent size but not very many of them, the homeowner has had Flathead catfish in the pond before but we are thinking we have removed all of them some years ago, some were close to twenty lbs, but the crappie have not rebounded like we think they should have, there are a bunch of bass, some pretty good sized, in this body of water, we always have been putting them back but I am debating on culling a few of them in the future.
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#516199 - 01/28/20 02:12 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: gehajake]
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I have caught bass up to 10# (1) and many 5-7#, guess that big mama is hurting the population of BCP that I have been trying to encourage. Also have some shad and GSH

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#516203 - 01/28/20 04:22 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: canyoncreek]
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Today I made a second fish cage, about half the size but stronger than the first. I also used a wider mesh net this time because last summer I've lost about 40 LMB in the first cage, due to a narrower mesh net that had been closed by the algae, causing poor water circulation and therefore a lethal DO drop.
I will use it from spring onwards to store the LMB to cull and all the other fish to be eliminated from the pond that I will give to friends.
Not sure if the



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#516207 - 01/28/20 06:16 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: canyoncreek]
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That looks pretty good to me Filippo. It's raining and cold out here today but I got something to read at least.


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#516210 - 01/28/20 07:57 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: RStringer]
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It finally happened! The last of the 3000-5000yds of topsoil has been hauled off and the expansion drastically moved towards completion. I think they did as best they could with the D6 given all the mud. It's pretty rough but if they don't come back, that's fine.
Finally, we are ready for a lot of rain. The neighbors' big sediment pond is almost full so it will overflow pretty quick into ours.


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#516215 - 01/28/20 08:48 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: canyoncreek]
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Sweet - how big will it be when it gets full. Exciting times mine is just about to run over the top. Going to have to add some to the samn when it dries out.
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#516220 - 01/28/20 10:26 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: canyoncreek]
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It will be about 2ac. When we bought the place all we really expected was a small stock tank. After the NRCS calculated the watershed everything changed and I found y'all!

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#516229 - 01/29/20 07:31 AM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: canyoncreek]
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Zep, yes I do use cinder blocks but like Pat I have used sand bags also. With the size cedars (7 to 10') I am sinking I can use one block because I know they will sink on their own at some point. And Pat, Bob Lusk most always recommends setting brush close to the spawning area. Todd Overton recommended I build brush piles along the shoreline, so it was 3'+- depths. Course that was for spawning cnbg. I would think Cp would spawn in the same area. I am not so sure brush sunk in deeper waters would help survival of Cp fry even though it might be a great place to fish for larger sized Cp.
Pat, it would be fun to get a group of us guys together for a cp fishing trip on Public waters where maybe the best of the best might be transported back to the pond. Can be pretty easy to locate and catch cp this time of year at Lake o Pines or Caddo. Just a thought but then again for what money is spent like a couple of hundred on a trip maybe it's better to contact Todd or Bob.
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#516235 - 01/29/20 10:22 AM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: TGW1]
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Tracy from what I read the BCP go out to open water after they hatch and are not structure oriented until they are larger. There is conflicting info about them that I wish would be discussed here

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#516253 - 01/29/20 08:35 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: canyoncreek]
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A comment about cinder blocks and using them to weight down cedars. I have found if you ask a local manufacture or supplier about their ďbone yard of blocksĒ, you can usually have them for free or they will deliver for a small charge. It is easier for them to give them away than dispose of them. The big box guys donít have left overs or bad blocks. Also, I have been using 36Ē zip ties, rated at 175 lbs, to secure blocks to trees. A 1Ē wood drill bit hole through trunk, slip a zip tie through hole and around cell of block. Done!
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#516263 - 01/30/20 06:18 AM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: MOFishermen]
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I saw a BCP on another forum that had a tape measure by it. It was 12" long and 4.5" tall, so a Largemouth Bass with a gape of 5" could eat it....

That BCP did not look skinny either. So the larger LMB may be eating more BCP than you think. When you catch some of those crappie, measure their height and see if the LMB in your pond can eat them.
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#516266 - 01/30/20 07:16 AM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: canyoncreek]
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I ask a question a few yrs ago about using Cp for lmb forage. As esshup pointed out, maybe those larger sized 8 to 10lb lmb are feeding on the Cp? Your bucked stocked lmb do seem to have had nice growth ( 1 1/2 to 2 lb per year) considering you have some really nice sized lmb in your 5 to 6 yr old pond.
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#516268 - 01/30/20 07:45 AM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: TGW1]
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As many times that I have had LMB grab BCP that I had hooked I think both of you are right...... may have to open season on LMB in order to have a few BCP to catch.

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#516290 - 01/30/20 07:02 PM Re: What did you do at your pond today? [Re: canyoncreek]
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Had a blast with the rainbow trout today! Finger numbing cold didn't stop them feeding & biting at all, we kept two nice ones for dinner. One was north of 2 lbs, the other close. Great fights, the larger one actually bent the hook & we were lucky to net it.

Kept 4 smaller bass, released 3 good ones. Biggest was maybe 20 inches, but very fat, probably female full of eggs. We also caught 3 hybrid stripers, released all. Oddly, we had zero luck on bluegill.

They are still feeding, but now it seems like the trout, stripers, and largemouth are dominating. My buddy's wife absolutely loves trout, she's gonna be thrilled tonight.

PS Saw bald eagle on patrol, also a couple of nasty cormorants hung around for a while.


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