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#513582 - 11/01/19 09:06 PM Re: 2019 Havest [Re: Bill D.]
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Registered: 05/07/13
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Loc: West Michigan
This is the best way I can tell them apart:

Throw them in the live well.

If there are males and females mixed together, the females will be the ones shouting and complaining about the temperature and the crowded quarters. The males will be cowering in the corner.

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#513583 - 11/01/19 09:30 PM Re: 2019 Havest [Re: canyoncreek]
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Registered: 10/29/18
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Loc: Boone County Missouri
Originally Posted By: canyoncreek
This is the best way I can tell them apart:

Throw them in the live well.

If there are males and females mixed together, the females will be the ones shouting and complaining about the temperature and the crowded quarters. The males will be cowering in the corner.


OK, that made me chuckle.

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#513612 - 11/02/19 09:00 PM Re: 2019 Havest [Re: Bill D.]
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Registered: 10/19/14
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Loc: Boone County Illinois
Originally Posted By: Bill D.
Originally Posted By: Snipe
Shape of head and eyes is one of the keys (after looking at 10,000-15,000 every spring) and not often will you find a 21" male :-))


Thanks Snipe, Makes sense! Was the condition of the ovaries of my Sept caught female what you expected?

Anybody know of a definitive way to tell male from female WE? I read an article somewhere that said the anal opening of a male is round and female's is "keyhole" shaped. Any truth to that?



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#513645 - 11/03/19 07:12 PM Re: 2019 Havest [Re: canyoncreek]
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Loc: NW Kansas
Originally Posted By: canyoncreek
This is the best way I can tell them apart:

Throw them in the live well.

If there are males and females mixed together, the females will be the ones shouting and complaining about the temperature and the crowded quarters. The males will be cowering in the corner.


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#513646 - 11/03/19 07:17 PM Re: 2019 Havest [Re: Bill D.]
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Bill, I'm pulling fall nets for the State for the next 3 days.
I'll send some pics of sexing WAE.
There are a couple of ways to tell and this will give me an opportunity to do it with pics. We should have first sets run and done by 3pm tomorrow, I'll try and get some pics up tomorrow night if I can make it happen from my phone. We don't have wifi where I'll be the next 3 days but I'll see if I can make it work.
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#513648 - 11/03/19 08:34 PM Re: On Mutt Pond [Re: Bill D.]
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Thanks Snipe!

No hurry. I look forward to reading your thoughts on the subject! smile
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#514022 - 11/14/19 12:02 PM Stocking Fall 2019 [Re: Bill D.]
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Did our fall stocking today. Had to break a hole in the ice to get it done! The original plan was to ladder stock 10 WE 8-10 inch and 10 pounds of GSH. I got a call from Keystone a few days ago. Apparently, their supplier in Minnesota had a fish kill under the ice last winter and they lost their year two WE so no 8-10 inch were available. Turned out the biggest WE they have this fall is 6 to 8 inch so they gave me 14 of those. So the final numbers stocked today were 14 WE 6 to 8 inch, 10lbs FHM and 10lbs GSH.

Maybe a good thing? The 6 to 8 inch year one fish stocked today are the shooters from this year while the 8 to 10 inch year 2 fish would have been just average fish, correct?





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#514024 - 11/14/19 12:43 PM Re: Stocking Fall 2019 [Re: Bill D.]
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Bill D

I am truly asking because I have no idea. Is Fall the best time to stock FHM and GSH? Won't they get pounded all winter or is that the plan? I ASSumed best time to stock would be in the spring when there's short time till reproduction??
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#514026 - 11/14/19 01:16 PM Stocking Fall 2019 [Re: Bill D.]
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Yep, I would stock them in the spring if I had hopes of them reproducing. I stocked the GSH and FHM now for two reasons. First, to act as diversions to help keep my new WE from being targeted hard right away by the larger predators already in the pond and second, to provide a little winter forage for the new WE as well as the existing herd. Maybe take a little pressure off the BG for a while as well. It would be a pleasant, though unexpected, bonus if any minnows survive to reproduce in the spring! smile


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#514028 - 11/14/19 01:31 PM Re: On Mutt Pond [Re: Bill D.]
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10-4 makes sense to me


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#514033 - 11/14/19 04:35 PM Fall Stocking 2019 [Re: Bill D.]
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The grass carp have significantly reduced the small leaf pond weed and my brush piles have pretty much disappeared. Once I build back up some cover in the spring, I might stock some GSH, when the water temp is correct for them to spawn, and see if they can survive and reproduce.
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#514554 - 12/02/19 08:54 PM Closing the loop and updates [Re: Bill D.]
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Loc: Boone County Illinois
Originally Posted By: Bill D.
... I need to go back and read thru the thread from the beginning someday soon to refresh this old man's memory! Might even find a few things that were left open that I can close the loop on or update.


Well over the holiday I started reviewing the past posts in this thread and the first thing I found was....Approximately 20 pages had the photos unviewable thanks to the Photobucket mess!

I think I've removed all the Photobucket contamination and have all pictures viewable again. It had made the content on many posts worthless. Anybody else found this problem?


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#514696 - 12/06/19 02:43 PM Re: Closing the loop and updates [Re: Bill D.]
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Originally Posted By: Bill D.

I think I've removed all the Photobucket contamination and have all pictures viewable again. It had made the content on many posts worthless. Anybody else found this problem?


I ran into the same thing on my renovation thread when tinypic was shut down.

I've got some of it fixed, but there's still a lot of fixing to be done. I had saved all the pics in a semi-organized fashion,
but it's still a giant pita to go back and reset all of the photo links.

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#514701 - 12/06/19 06:18 PM Re: Unplanned Stocking [Re: snrub]
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Originally Posted By: snrub
I would think with careful use of a glyphosate product, it would not be too bad to maintain the rock look. It is just going to take regular maintenance much like a lawn requires mowing.

Where we travel a lot, seems like it is easier to get a grandson to hop on a zero turn mower and mow than to do specific chores that require detail. They seem to avoid weed eaters like the plague, although buying a walk behind DR has helped a lot. I don't think I could get anyone to do the required maintenance while we are gone with what I would be willing to pay to make it work. My wife would like our rock to keep looking like rock, but I'm not willing to commit to the time it takes to do it.

I'm kind of a low maintenance type guy. I would never survive in a neighborhood that required property to look just so-so. One reason I could never see myself living in town with neighbors close.
I was just rereading this and snrub your crazy your place is very nice looking.


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#514702 - 12/06/19 07:28 PM Re: Unplanned Stocking [Re: RStringer]
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Thanks. We like it.
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#514745 - 12/08/19 09:18 PM Re: Unplanned Stocking [Re: Bill D.]
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I was reading this whole thread over the weekend. Very cool pond alot like I want mine to be (just fun fishing we swim in it also). I didnt see any picture of when everything has been done. You talk about doing landscaping around the pond. Can you post some new pictures of the place?
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#514919 - Yesterday at 05:55 PM Re: Unplanned Stocking [Re: RStringer]
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Originally Posted By: RStringer
I was reading this whole thread over the weekend. Very cool pond alot like I want mine to be (just fun fishing we swim in it also). I didnt see any picture of when everything has been done. You talk about doing landscaping around the pond. Can you post some new pictures of the place?


Thanks Rusto!

The landscaping is a work in progress. We've put rip rap all around the pond and have some nice marginal and emerged vegetation. I'll try to remember to post some pics next summer. We've also planted hundreds of trees but it will be many years before they reach maturity and the look we want.
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#514921 - Yesterday at 06:39 PM Re: Unplanned Stocking [Re: Bill D.]
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You very welcome. I love seeing new ideas around. Here in kansas pictures dont do any justice this time of year either. I'm glad to have a break from mowing. Looks like a beautiful place you have. I would love to do a rip rap on mine. Maybe someday after the kids move out.
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