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#513866 - 11/08/19 03:21 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
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Registered: 08/16/14
Posts: 1032
Loc: in the mountains
First issue of the year...

We had a breaker mysteriously trip on the charge controller. This took down the incoming power from solar. The pump continued to run and drained the batteries down to the level where the system cuts off to protect the batteries. It took a week for my buddy to get up there and diagnose and correct the problem. The power came back online and the system rebooted. The pump started running again and air flowing. While the pump was down we got ~20" of snow and some low temps around 0. Temps returned to somewhat normal and most of the snow that is exposed to the sun has melted off. Today is the 4th day the pump has been back up and running. The diffusers have chewed through the ice and the holes are getting a little bigger each day. Currently the 1HP pump is only running 4.5 hours per day. We are going to bump that up to 5.5 or 6 hours.

Had to look back on this thread to see run times and results in the past. It has been very handy to have this thread as a data log.

While my buddy was up he got some DO data. We were at 36 degree water temps and 8.6 PPM of DO!! This was after aeration had been shut down and the lake fully frozen over with snow cover for one week. We are very excited and encouraged about those numbers.Gonna be an interesting Winter!



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#513877 - 11/08/19 10:03 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
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Growing a sport fishery at 10,000 ft is definitely a challenge.
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#513921 - 11/11/19 10:23 AM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
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Registered: 11/22/13
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Loc: Lawrence County, PA
Following along again this year. Hope we both make it through. Last year we did OK with two solar aerators going - both broke down at some point but not at the same point....

I'm not into just burning fuel for no reason, but maybe a small auto-start backup generator would be appropriate given the potential loss you're dealing with each winter? Propane fired? Large propane tank might be tricky but it could be the ultimate belt and suspenders approach.
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#513926 - 11/11/19 12:47 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
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Hobbyman I'm wishing you the best this winter!! I am curious what issues you had with your pumps?? Was it condensation related? Do you think you can prevent the same issues this year? If you made a post about this I missed it.

Believe it or not I had a 5,500 watt propane generator, that I never hooked up, out at the cabin just for that purpose. I already have a 1,000 gallon propane tank buried. In the end I decided the generator wasn't worth the cost. I actually just sold the generator about two days ago. The number of times we are shutdown due to power out is very very slim. It is the condensation that kills me. The past two years being able to run the pump wasn't the issue. The issue was getting the air from the pump to the water.

Plus this wind turbine is supposed to be my belt and suspenders if we can ever get the dang thing to work right. That is whole other painful story lol....
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#513936 - 11/11/19 04:59 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
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Registered: 11/22/13
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One of the failures was a pump. It's a small direct drive solar pump, 24v thomas rocking piston pump, purchased used and was running flawlessly for at least 3 years, so can't blame it really. The other was a timer / control issue on a larger solar / battery pump. No issues with lines freezing / condensate last year, thankfully. I redid the battery system this year so it has about 3' of line from the pump to the water, and i'm going to replace the small direct drive pump and it's tubing before we freeze up (we have a few weeks left).

Best of luck to you as well!
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#513938 - 11/11/19 05:56 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
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Great to hear your complications were fairly straight forward fixes! Post some pics over the winter! Us ice folk have to stick together!! Lol
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#513969 - 11/12/19 01:04 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
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I'll get some pics along the way - hopefully of some holes in the ice!
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#513997 - Yesterday at 03:17 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
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Here's the current situation.

The small hole closest to the peninsula is from the Koenders windmill. All other holes are from solar. 1HP pump currently running 4.5 hours per day. If we can just maintain this through the next two months I think we are home free. No idea what to expect this year as far as snow.

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#513999 - Yesterday at 03:57 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
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Registered: 05/07/13
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Loc: West Michigan
Beautiful picture! What was the breaker tripping event due to?

Funny thing is we have more snow on the ground in MI than you do in CO, hopefully it melts soon, not ready for snow before Thanksgiving!

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#514000 - Yesterday at 04:02 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
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Registered: 08/16/14
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Thanks Canyon. Not 100% sure what tripped the breaker. I think it could be turbine related so we shut down the turbine for winter. Swapping in a new breaker just to be sure.

We have had ~20" fall so far. I am kind of surprised ours already melted. Maybe you guys will have an epic snow year! I will cross my fingers for you! LOL


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