Pond Boss Magazine
http://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
337Bryan, MRaymond, Drjrob, Mark Joy, JMikeWarren
16238 Registered Users
Forum Stats
16238 Members
36 Forums
37177 Topics
506345 Posts

Max Online: 2022 @ 10/09/19 11:25 PM
Top Posters
esshup 24033
Cecil Baird1 20043
ewest 19997
Dave Davidson1 14105
Bill Cody 12989
Who's Online
0 registered (), 649 Guests and 516 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Topic Options
#513834 - 11/07/19 09:43 PM Some unexpected net samples
Snipe Offline


Registered: 10/26/18
Posts: 723
Loc: NW Kansas
First, this was supposed to be some pics for Bill D and help with ID'ing WAE sex but as it turned out we only sampled 13 walleye and all were males so I'm linking a few pics of what happens when you have a remnant population of smallies in an impoundment with LMB but conditions decline and the LMB nearly disappear. We started seeing these this spring with size and mass and it's cool to see how this impoundment has changed since filling in 1995.
I'm betting you can identify the 3rd fish as well.
The first pic is just an old stud holding another stud...







Edited by Snipe (11/07/19 09:48 PM)
_________________________
I Subscribe!

Top
#513835 - 11/08/19 12:33 AM Re: Some unexpected net samples [Re: Snipe]
teehjaeh57 Offline
Chairman, Pond Boss Legacy award; Moderator; field correspondent
Lunker

Registered: 01/22/08
Posts: 8228
Loc: Lincoln, NE
WR of those SMB appear 120+...tell us more - forage base?

LMB is definitely not holding it's own vs the SMB...maybe 95 WR is my guess. That's yet another surprise...

Dude in the top pick has the most impressive WR of all.... wink

I demand the DEETS, yo!
_________________________
Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. ~ Henry David Thoreau





Top
#513858 - 11/08/19 11:58 AM Re: Some unexpected net samples [Re: Snipe]
Snipe Offline


Registered: 10/26/18
Posts: 723
Loc: NW Kansas
My WR is about 190%, Milk dudes, M&M's, Tootsie rolls and other similar forage items..
Pic #3 is a spot!
Crawdads are primary source of forage. This impoundment has loads of Red shiner, a few GSH, Logger perch darters and some common shiners. Normally we have a large gizzard shad population but for whatever reason they just didn't reproduce this year, very strange deal, and WB and small HSB show it. Larger fish seem to have food available. We found a leopard frog in a 2lb male WAE. Different for sure.
BG, BCP, WCP, WB, HSB & WAE are other species present. This 7000 ac impoundment has came up 18' since fall of last year and there are some tremendous LMB recruits but 1 year isn't going to fill that huge void. This is also our main WAE Egg supply lake.
Vis was 14'+ on Monday...because we only have 14' of rope on disc.


Edited by Snipe (11/08/19 12:12 PM)
_________________________
I Subscribe!

Top
#513869 - 11/08/19 04:10 PM Re: Some unexpected net samples [Re: Snipe]
Augie Offline


Registered: 10/29/18
Posts: 226
Loc: Boone County Missouri
Originally Posted By: Snipe

Pic #3 is a spot!


I've caught a lot of spotted bass over the years. That is the biggest one, by a long shot, that I have ever seen.

Top
#513879 - 11/09/19 05:09 AM Re: Some unexpected net samples [Re: Snipe]
snrub Offline


Registered: 10/05/13
Posts: 5511
Loc: SE Kansas
I find it really odd that in my one acre RES/SMB pond I can see the SMB but they sure do not want to bite what I offer. Yet in my main 3 acre pond where I have transferred some of the SMB out of the RES/SMB pond into it and they are a relatively small portion of the overall fish population I catch one or two about every time I fish off the dock around the fish feeder.

My only explanation is that in the main pond the smallies have to compete with a robust population of BG where in the RES/SMB pond that competition is lacking. Don't know if that is the reason for sure, but for some reason in the main pond I catch them regularly.

I need to know what to look for in the identification of the spotted bass.
_________________________
John

I subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine

Top
#513885 - 11/09/19 08:16 PM Re: Some unexpected net samples [Re: snrub]
Bill D. Offline


Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 6006
Loc: Boone County Illinois
Originally Posted By: snrub
...
I need to know what to look for in the identification of the spotted bass.
John,

At first glance at pic 3, I also thought the fish was a LMB. Now that Snipe pointed it out, I see it is a Spot.

I'm no Spot expert for sure but I believe the back of the jaw lines up pretty much with the eye on a Spot (similar to SMB) while the back of the jaw on LMB extends a good bit behind the eye.


Edited by Bill D. (11/09/19 08:20 PM)
Edit Reason: Typo
_________________________

You'll never know what ya can catch unless you wet a line!

Top
#513886 - 11/09/19 09:40 PM Re: Some unexpected net samples [Re: Snipe]
Snipe Offline


Registered: 10/26/18
Posts: 723
Loc: NW Kansas



and to compare..



In my opinion, SMB can differ much more in color variations but the jaw falling short of eye socket is key.
_________________________
I Subscribe!

Top
#513887 - 11/09/19 10:19 PM Re: Some unexpected net samples [Re: Snipe]
snrub Offline


Registered: 10/05/13
Posts: 5511
Loc: SE Kansas
Thanks!

At one time I would have liked to have some spotted bass. But now that I have SMB I think I am happy with them.
_________________________
John

I subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine

Top

Today's Birthdays
Ross Baker, Texas Boy
Recent Posts
Best non-traditional forage fish for ponds?
by gehajake
Yesterday at 09:31 PM
I think there is a fungus among us.
by Snipe
Yesterday at 09:31 PM
Selecting Pump for Aeration. Does This Seem Right?
by Bill Cody
Yesterday at 07:29 PM
8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s
by wbuffetjr
Yesterday at 04:02 PM
Improving forage in an existing pond
by Steve_
Yesterday at 02:07 PM
New Pond Project
by MWB
Yesterday at 10:28 AM
What fish types are these?
by RStringer
Yesterday at 09:17 AM
Slow around here lately?
by RStringer
Yesterday at 09:01 AM
Natural blue water
by Brett N
Yesterday at 02:25 AM
Keeping ice off dock with aeration
by Brian Z.
11/12/19 02:43 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Need Plants Identified - Texas Pond - Lily Pad ...
Personal Record BGxRES
Harry's Pond
pond view
Fishing Colorado...finally
Releasing a quick snack

2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide