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#512508 - 10/09/19 01:21 AM Re: How long does it last (treatment) ? [Re: RStringer]
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Google says: Macrophytes are aquatic plants growing in or near water. They may be either emergent (i.e., with upright portions above the water surface), submerged or floating.
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#512509 - 10/09/19 02:20 AM Re: How long does it last (treatment) ? [Re: RStringer]
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And emergent and submerged-rooted-Macrophytes are probably the most important type of vegetation you can have. Very important piece of the puzzle as TJ suggests..
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#512511 - 10/09/19 07:25 AM Re: How long does it last (treatment) ? [Re: RStringer]
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The season is just about over but got another question. Iv read that mowing towards the water is good for the water and also bad. Which one is it good or bad for water clarity?
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#512513 - 10/09/19 07:36 AM Re: How long does it last (treatment) ? [Re: RStringer]
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Also had another idea. Since i'm in the middle of digging my pond out I was thinking. Would it be helping to spread alum out along the bottom before the water fills it up or would that be a waste? Is there anything you can do before the water comes to help with the clarity. Would spreading the ag lime over the clay layer help or just a waste of money? I know I ramble lot my wife tells me all the time. I say I'm a thinker and a doer lol (more thinking than doing). Right now as the water runs over the topsoil its clear and as soon as it hits the clay its murky. Just seems like maybe theres a way to avoid the murkiness before it happen. Is it a good idea to put topsoil on top of the clay layer when done digging?
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#512516 - 10/09/19 08:18 AM Re: How long does it last (treatment) ? [Re: RStringer]
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You should ck your soil before you add the lime to the ponds bottom but I would try lime additions if lime is needed, before I would use alum to clear up the water. Alum is not cheap. And you would have to use hydrated lime along with the alum to keep the pH in the desired range. I would suggest you wait and see before u just throw things into the water.


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#512527 - 10/09/19 10:15 AM Re: How long does it last (treatment) ? [Re: RStringer]
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With how much talk there is on here about alum its sure hard to find it for sale. I look under the resource guide and not finding it on any of the websites. Am I just missing it or whats the deal?
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#512529 - 10/09/19 11:04 AM Re: How long does it last (treatment) ? [Re: RStringer]
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Do you have any Helena Chemical plant/warehouses in your area?
Helena has a source and can get it for you.
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#512533 - 10/09/19 11:37 AM Re: How long does it last (treatment) ? [Re: RStringer]
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Holy crap its going to be over 600 dollars just for the alum. I was told a minimum of 200 lbs. Its 150 bucks plus for 48 lbs. That's not including the Ag lime that has to be added. I guess I havnt seen anyone post the number on the price on here before. I wasnt thinking it would cost so much.
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#512543 - 10/09/19 05:50 PM Re: How long does it last (treatment) ? [Re: RStringer]
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Keep looking I paid about a little less than 50 per bag. As a last resort contact a local water treatment plant in your area. They could tell you who supplies them. They use alum powder but I think most have gone to liquid form these days.
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#512556 - 10/10/19 07:45 AM Re: How long does it last (treatment) ? [Re: RStringer]
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Thanks for the tip Tracy. I happen to know a few cities workers.
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#512557 - 10/10/19 07:47 AM Re: How long does it last (treatment) ? [Re: RStringer]
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Here is the latest pic of the test. Some progress made. I'm sure the CC and koi and crawdads are not helping my problem. I think when I'm done with the dig I will take the rest of the cats out.


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#512558 - 10/10/19 07:49 AM Re: How long does it last (treatment) ? [Re: RStringer]
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Here's the latest of the jar I was playing around with. It's almost like a magnifying glass looking thur it.


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#512885 - Yesterday at 11:56 AM Re: How long does it last (treatment) ? [Re: RStringer]
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The latest picture dont show much difference. I reread this post and I wasnt correct on my info. I said my bank was all grass. That was wrong it was all grass until I started digging on it. It had always had terrible visibility. I guess I was speaking of the water before the dig. The water hasnt changed much.


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