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#512289 - 10/02/19 10:47 PM Small pond-lots of warmouth, wanting lmb
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Registered: 10/02/19
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Loc: FL
First off, I'd like to thank this site as a collective for the invaluable information it provides. You've all been incredibly helpful to me as a first timer, possibly without knowing it!

Last April, I dug a 100x70 pond, 15 feet deep in the center. This spring, after the literal dust had settled, I noticed an abundance of tadpoles and then gambusia appearing. A few months after that, fish were popping left and right. Yesterday, I fished it for the first time and dragged out warmouth after warmouth, to the tune of about 10 between 3 and 6 inches long. My plan is to stock lmb in the spring after I get my aerator. What size lmb should I be looking for if the warmouth are already 6 inches? I just started feeding purina game fish chow, with good results on the fish taking it. I was also wondering what I should expect to hear from the local hatcheries on lmb numbers for stocking. I believe I have everything I need to sustain a healthy environment, but I'll defer to you folks on specifics. It's not lost on me that this is a very small pond. I expect to hear numbers in the 40-50 range. The goal of the pond is to create a healthy bass environment more than anything, but I do like the way panfish fight and taste.

My other (somewhat related) question is concerning a visitor that has also taken an interest in my fish, which is a 2' alligator. How much damage can this little guy realistically do to my food chain? He's very slow moving and I would imagine not able to really make a big dent in anything but the toad population. In any event, he's there and eating something, and it may be my fish! He doesn't bother me, and I don't bother him, but the thought will always be in my mind, especially when the bass get here. I was thinking about picking up crawfish next week, but that sounds more or less like a snack for him.

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#512290 - 10/02/19 11:04 PM Re: Small pond-lots of warmouth, wanting lmb [Re: DownByTheRiver]
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Welcome, glad to have you! First question I would have is where are fish coming from if you didnít stock them. Then what else might be swimming around in there already?
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#512291 - 10/02/19 11:07 PM Re: Small pond-lots of warmouth, wanting lmb [Re: DownByTheRiver]
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Don't know much about 'gators so I can't say what it would take from you, fish-wise.
Warmouth probably will not sustain a LMB fishery long-term.. I believe you'll be wanting to add CNBG next spring, like 200-250 4-6" fish. They will spawn and provide the YOY it's going to take to support LMB in your area.
I think 40-50 LMB is likely twice what you'll want to start with in a 1/6 ac impoundment and I think 6-8" fish would be fine but I'd wait until fall 2020 to add them.. allow the forage base to expand with the CNBG and I believe I would cull every warmouth you catch.
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#512299 - 10/03/19 01:15 AM Re: Small pond-lots of warmouth, wanting lmb [Re: DownByTheRiver]
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Good advice from Snipe.
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#512302 - 10/03/19 05:41 AM Re: Small pond-lots of warmouth, wanting lmb [Re: DownByTheRiver]
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You should begin training the gator to eat Herons and otters. It will pay off long term.

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#512303 - 10/03/19 06:26 AM Re: Small pond-lots of warmouth, wanting lmb [Re: DownByTheRiver]
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In 1/6 acre, I don't see bass being a good idea. They are pretty heavy spawners. Actually Lusk says to not stock them in warm water ponds of less than an acre. I think I would go with channel cats; maybe about 20.
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