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#497204 - 10/04/18 09:44 PM What fish types are these?
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Registered: 03/21/16
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Loc: St. Louis, Missouri
I have been follow the forum for a long Time. Great information out there to help everyone manage their ponds and lakes.

I am trying to restore a forage base in a 236 acre lake at Innsbrook Resort near Warrenton MO. I caught a few smaller fish in a trap last weekend. I was trying to determine what species. Thanks for any help you can provide.


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#497205 - 10/04/18 10:01 PM Re: What fish types are these? [Re: MOFishermen]
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Registered: 06/02/13
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Loc: TN, Lakeland
Both fish look stunted. First picture is of a Bluegill. Second picture is a Redear Sunfish
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#497207 - 10/04/18 11:06 PM Re: What fish types are these? [Re: MOFishermen]
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Thanks for providing information on each species. When you say they look stunted, how did you assess that condition? They were only 1 to 2 inches in length.
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#497208 - 10/05/18 12:15 AM Re: What fish types are these? [Re: MOFishermen]
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More the first fish, but itís all in the eyes. Body size doesnít match eye size. Usually on panfish I notice large eyes on small fish means that fish didnít get its meals as often as it should have. If that first fish was 1.5Ē I would venture to say heís short a inch in growth. Just my observation, others may chime in.
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#497210 - 10/05/18 01:55 AM Re: What fish types are these? [Re: MOFishermen]
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Snake is on target, fish exhibit signs of stunted growth due to the large eye.
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#497234 - 10/05/18 10:38 PM Re: What fish types are these? [Re: MOFishermen]
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Appreciate all the advice and analysis on the fish. Since I have feeders, should I be feeding small size food? I have been feeding Optimal BG Jr but cut it back last two weeks. I had great success on increasing size of stocked BG in May with our feeding program.
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#497295 - 10/08/18 09:27 AM Re: What fish types are these? [Re: MOFishermen]
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I would feed smaller sized food IF you want that small class to grow more than normal. I have FHM's and some HBG YOY that get after the Optimal #4 really well. The #4 is a bit big for the minnows, but they sure push it around and make good use of it. Once the minnow population dwindles in my small pond, I will not likely supply the smaller feed because I am not so interested in growing the YOY. I suspect I will ladder stock my HBG and HSB and do not need to grow the offspring.
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#498190 - 11/01/18 04:42 AM Re: What fish types are these? [Re: MOFishermen]
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Loc: Austin, TX, USA
It seems like it's a baby fish who just born recently, why do you catch it, better to let it grow


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#511287 - 09/08/19 07:26 PM Re: What fish types are these? [Re: MOFishermen]
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Wanted to provide a quick update on our restocking program. We have stocked about 9000 BG that were 3 to 6 inches when stocked during the spring of 2018 and 2019. This past spring we changed fish hatcheries and the quality of the fish was much better. We have nine feeders going from April till October. We started the year with Optimal BG Jr. and then switched to Optimal BG. Our BG have increased in size and weight. We are seeing a lot of fish in the 7 to 10 inch range with good RW.

I did catch a couple of unique fish last weekend. Fish A, I would say is a GSF. Fish B, seemed like a GSF but it's mouth was more like a BC and the body seemed a LMB. Any suggestions on cross breeding?


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#511291 - 09/08/19 09:13 PM Re: What fish types are these? [Re: MOFishermen]
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I'd say all are green sunfish or are heavy on green sunfish genes. Sometimes GSF crosses can look a bit different but the large mouth and color on the fins, plus the blue lines on the side of the head are indicative of GSF.


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#511298 - 09/08/19 11:05 PM Re: What fish types are these? [Re: MOFishermen]
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I thought it was a GSF. One of the largest I have caught in the lake. I keep culling them since that big mouth has me think of all the YOY BG it could be eating. Thanks for confirming.
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#511299 - 09/09/19 12:18 AM Re: What fish types are these? [Re: MOFishermen]
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Loc: NW Kansas
I agree, heavy on GSF but I don't recall seeing vertical barring that "black". Water color and time of day have a lot to do with coloring so they may be pure GSF..??
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#511319 - 09/09/19 11:24 AM Re: What fish types are these? [Re: MOFishermen]
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Registered: 10/29/18
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Loc: Boone County Missouri
Both green sunfish, and whopper sized.

Good for the skillet or trotline bait in the Missouri River.

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#511328 - 09/09/19 12:37 PM Re: What fish types are these? [Re: MOFishermen]
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Our water has no color. It is clear to about 13 feet on the Secchi disk. One of the clearest lakes in MO by the water quality standards maintained by the DNR. Yes, I know it it difficult to grow good size fish in that type of environment. Both fish were in the evening.
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