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#510497 - 08/19/19 10:00 AM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Here's the pics.


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#510521 - 08/19/19 07:49 PM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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What makes the blue color?
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#510525 - 08/19/19 11:01 PM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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I added FHM and BG to my new forage pond/wetland/sediment pond after swarms of mosquitoes invaded during last winter and thousands of larva were observed swimming. I think it worked. My vote is toward adding FHM ASAP. Why not?
The bullhead fry just as likely could've been responsible for eating the larva...are you at risk of anything washing in?
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#510541 - 08/20/19 12:23 PM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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I don't know why it's so clear and blue. One of my back hoe diggers said he thinks I hit a spring. The pond is ~100' away from the headwaters of Muddy Creek which eventually feeds into Lake Ray Hubbard. My inlet is rainwater runoff, but in high water conditions, something could swim upstream. Is there a reasonable way to control this?

Here's a pic of my first water samples. I had to tell the kids not to drink them they were so clear. "Almost" the same clarity as tap water. The PH was 7.4, but I don't remember the other numbers. Higher in Calcium which I assume comes from the limestone. So maybe the color is coming from the limestone?


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#510542 - 08/20/19 12:54 PM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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I would love to have water that clear. That will look amazing when its all done. I like the shape.
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#510558 - 08/20/19 05:14 PM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Doesn’t look like spring water to me. It looks like one of my small ponds that I added blue dye to cut down on mosquito reproduction.

But then, spring water is affected by what is underground. Interesting water. I wonder what causes it.
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#510593 - 08/21/19 10:57 AM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Folks, I put these artificial structures together and currently they float with the knee pad attached. (I was going for the flat surface for bait fish to spawn under.) Should I let them float or should I sink them? If sinking, at what depth should I target when the pond is full? I was thinking a couple at 6-8 feet and a couple at 3'? thanks.


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#510599 - 08/21/19 01:40 PM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Depends on goals for the structure. See the archive

http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=92463#Post92463

FH spawn near surface under structure.
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#510765 - 08/26/19 09:32 AM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Thanks for all the comments folks, I appreciate it. Here's a pic from this weekend. I have some structure in now and the water has come up to about 4' either by spring or just ground water. The color remains blue and crystal clear. When full, it should be 13-15' at the deepest part. We've been getting some small rains which are helping to "melt" the loose dirt to keep it from eroding into the pond. Any ideas on ground cover to help lock in the soil here in Texas? Winter Rye? Without significant rain, it might not fill until spring. Thanks.


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#510769 - 08/26/19 09:59 AM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Are those bricks on a skid towards the bottom? If so in my opinion I would make a pile of them instead of stacking them. Not sure if even the small fish could get into that maze. I could be way off on this.
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#510771 - 08/26/19 10:37 AM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Yes, they are bricks. There are three pallets staggered and stacked against the pond wall. The open side of the pallets are facing the pond, and that was where I thought the main fish cover would come from. The bricks are just holding down the pallets, but I could certainly put them in a pile instead of stacking them. Thx!

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#510772 - 08/26/19 10:51 AM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Rye grass is a good plant to have around the perimeter of the pond... will hold the soil together even when it dies off in the summer. As dry as it is you have to water it till we get some rain and cooler weather.

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#510912 - 08/29/19 02:49 PM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Sounds like Rye is a good choice. I'll wait till late September to spread it and then pray for some light rains to get it started. If it'll take a good hold, it would be nice to have that in place when the heavy rains come in the spring.

I've also been asked whether it's spring fed or just ground water. I don't know, any ideas out there on how to determine one or the other? I suppose if it was spring fed, it would be less likely to dry up in the drought periods, but other than that it's just a curiosity.

thanks again.

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#510976 - 08/30/19 09:04 PM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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For me, I like to keep a few deer around the pond through the fall and winter so I plant Elbon Rye and clover. Here in the Ark-La-Tex I plant in mid sept for the fall rains. Both seeds only require seed to dirt contact for sprouting. The clover will grow mostly roots until Feb. Both can be mowed if needed. You have to order the Elbon rye from most any seed and feed store its pretty cheep but the clover not so much.
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#511092 - 09/03/19 03:45 PM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: TGW1]
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Thank you....I'll check it out.

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#511098 - 09/03/19 05:13 PM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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That color water does look a lot like the limestone waters up in Arkansas you see running alongside the backroads to and from Fort Smith. I make that trip about 4 times a year. It is beautiful water!!
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#511256 - 09/07/19 11:56 AM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Bright and clean.. Just loved it!

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#513283 - 10/25/19 03:30 PM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Loc: tx
The temp has dropped and the rain has returned. The pond is now about 1/2 full, so I have ~6 lbs of FHM coming next week. Anxious to get the ecosystem going. I'm turning an old watering line into a new air line, so I should be ready next spring/summer to add a diffuser into the pond. So far, so good. Thanks for all the comments and pointing me towards other threads.

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#516247 - 01/29/20 02:07 PM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Well, the pond is now full. Inlet and outlet appear to be working fine and I put 5 lbs of FHM in it on November 1 and I have an aerator installed. Should I add more FHM now? Next up is HBG. When can I add them? Thanks in advance guys.....


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#516255 - 01/29/20 09:43 PM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Loc: Morton Valley, TX
That's real nice looking.
What I've learned here, hopefully... Let the FHM reproduce for a while. If the water is still really clear you may want to feed the FHM for extra boost. Hold off on the HBG to ensure you don't get stunted YOY from last Fall. Wait until May orJune. Maybe even Fall.
It may depend on the size HBG you plan to stock.
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#516270 - 01/30/20 10:04 AM Re: North Texas Newbie [Re: Danbob]
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Thanks Shortcut,
I confirmed that I put 6 lbs of FHM in on 11/1/19 and I haven't seen any loss, but then again I've only seen them swirling in a bait ball a couple of times. Now that I'm at a solid 1/4 acre (yes, small I know) and 500-600,000 gallons, should I add another 6 lbs of FHM and then wait as you're suggesting to put in the HBG? The supplier has the HBG at 2-3" long, $55 for 100 fish. I assume the HBG will feed off the fry of the FHM? Any recommendations on feed if I go that way? Thanks much, I appreciate the comments.

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