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#507640 - 06/17/19 10:09 PM Waited 14 years
Tony K Offline


Registered: 05/29/19
Posts: 10
Loc: Leon junction, Texas
I always enjoy reading others pond journeys so i thought i would share ours. We have a good draw(ravine) with plenty of run-off but not so good soil, lots of rock pea size to beach ball size. My wife and I would talk about building a pond and then decide not to. But i have been reading PB for awhile and read Mike Otto's book so armed with all that good knowledge after 14 years we decided to go ahead with it. Keep in mind that we had built a little dam across the draw already to keep from getting stuck and when it rained it would back up water but be gone the next day so its not a good site, but we thought even a seasonal pond would be better than what we had. My friend has a track loader so cost would be diesel and parts.We followed the guidelines pushed any topsoil to the back, dug keyway deep and wide,dug out the old creek channel,worked for 3 months to get enough clay for the keyway. We had to build a separator to separate the rock out of the clay and build a towable sheepsfoot. We started the pond oct.2017 and finished Mar.2018.The pond filled in oct.2018 but dropped about 3 inches a day. It filled about 3 times but still dropped.I talked to TJ about soilfloc but decided to hold off on the 1/4 acre and try it on a .10 acre caliche pit that never held water thru the summer and it worked pretty good. (see soilfloc thread).Before trying soilfloc on the 1/4 acre pond i wanted to fix a few suspect areas so we drained the pond,hauled in about 400 yards of clay, spread and packed and almost finished before the rain hit. So the deepest part did not get done. The daily water loss is now 2 inches per day. May seem funny to some of you but I never thought it would be that good, this quick, I was thinking of it as a 5 year project. After all its been 15 years already! Now with soilfloc on the way we might just have a permanent pond!
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Edited by Tony K (07/03/19 05:31 PM)
Edit Reason: Changed dates, I had the years wrong

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#507648 - 06/18/19 12:01 AM Re: Waited 14 years [Re: Tony K]
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Loc: Jefferson County Missouri
I'm looking forward to your results! I hope it works for you!
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#507705 - 06/18/19 07:53 PM Re: Waited 14 years [Re: Tony K]
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Welcome. I admire your effort and attitude. Wish you the best for a sustainable pond. Please do keep us posted.
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#507707 - 06/18/19 08:28 PM Re: Waited 14 years [Re: Tony K]
Tony K Offline


Registered: 05/29/19
Posts: 10
Loc: Leon junction, Texas
Thanks guys. Bobbss I have followed your thread and I feel your pain on missing out on the rain. I live 30 miles from Waco and they will get 2 inches and I get 2/10. It will be our time one day!

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#507714 - 06/18/19 11:15 PM Re: Waited 14 years [Re: Tony K]
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Tony, I sure hope your right! lol! It has been a long journey, full of ups and downs. lol! Never give up hope!
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#508000 - 06/23/19 11:03 PM Re: Waited 14 years [Re: Tony K]
Tony K Offline


Registered: 05/29/19
Posts: 10
Loc: Leon junction, Texas
Soilfloc arrived Friday, we applied about 1/3 of a unit Saturday(6/22/19) at sundown to the area I think is leaking. Went over the area several times,back and forth and across. Prior to treatment the pond is 5 feet low and losing 2 inches daily. I will see what happens over the next week and post results.

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#508077 - 06/24/19 08:36 PM Re: Waited 14 years [Re: Tony K]
Tony K Offline


Registered: 05/29/19
Posts: 10
Loc: Leon junction, Texas
We had 3.3 inches of rain last night, pond came up about 2 feet and still rising so the results of soilfloc treatment will be on hold until pond stabilizes.I am thankful for the rain, I was getting worried about making it thru the summer. Of course I couldn't wait to put fish in the pond!

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#508418 - 07/02/19 09:29 PM Re: Waited 14 years [Re: Tony K]
Tony K Offline


Registered: 05/29/19
Posts: 10
Loc: Leon junction, Texas
After 7 days of monitoring daily vertical water loss it looks like my leak rate was cut in half by soilfloc. It was 2" daily, now it is 1" maybe a little less. We are very happy with this, I think if we tried to hire somebody to dig the pond here they would have strongly advised against it.
I would like to thank TJ, we emailed him on a Thursday or Friday, got a quick response, and had the product the following Friday.
I also want to thank everyone here for sharing their knowledge, I visited here for a few years and gained the confidence to start this pond journey.
Thanks,
Tony

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#508420 - 07/02/19 10:36 PM Re: Waited 14 years [Re: Tony K]
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Registered: 08/08/14
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Loc: Oakwood,Texas
Also keep in mind that a new pond loses water until the surrounding banks get saturated

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#508485 - 07/03/19 11:19 PM Re: Waited 14 years [Re: Tony K]
Tony K Offline


Registered: 05/29/19
Posts: 10
Loc: Leon junction, Texas
Thanks Pat,I've read here about soil saturation and wicking, so I was paying close attention to that, we watched the levels for about 2 months and also pumped water from the seasonal creek until it quit flowing. Hopefully we had enough saturation of the soil to get an accurate read.
I think one mistake I made was not digging the core deep enough. In the Nov./Dec.2018 issue of Pond Boss Michael Gray was talking about my exact situation, hitting clay and not going all the way to bedrock. We went all the way to solid rock on the North end of the dam, the creek channel was in the middle and the south end was clay. He was saying there can be a thin dirt layer between the clay and rock that can allow water through. I had noticed this dirt layer on top of bedrock at the place we were borrowing clay from 18' deep and that was where the water was traveling.The clay from the surface down to the dirt was dry. Amazing how water will find a way to escape.

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#508580 - 07/07/19 10:16 PM Re: Waited 14 years [Re: Tony K]
Tony K Offline


Registered: 05/29/19
Posts: 10
Loc: Leon junction, Texas
Picture of shop made Sheepsfoot


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#508581 - 07/07/19 10:32 PM Re: Waited 14 years [Re: Tony K]
Tony K Offline


Registered: 05/29/19
Posts: 10
Loc: Leon junction, Texas
Separating the rock from the clay.


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