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#500080 - 12/29/18 06:19 PM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: DanaL]
Mike Whatley Offline


Registered: 04/22/18
Posts: 1210
Loc: Louisiana
Originally Posted By: DanaL
Hi all. I'm Dana from southeastern NC. My husband and I own most of a pond that has more complications then we know how to deal with. A few months ago someone unknown tore out the spillway which wasn't on our property, and since then we have been trying to figure out which agency can definitively say what the regulations are regarding the land and stream, and how to proceed with repairs. I had no idea this site existed, and I now have hope this can be figured out!


Hi Dana...welcome to the forum!!

This is pure speculation, but from what I understand, the spillway on your "shared" pond rests on adjoining property owned by someone else. That's a tough situation. In most cases, my understanding is, that individual is responsible for upkeep/maintainance on any portion of the pond that's on their property. If they decided, for whatever reason, they no longer want a pond on their land, they can rip out the spillway and drain it, even if the majority of the pond is on you!

Unfortunately, about the only way to resolve the problem is to build a new dam/spillway on your property. A very costly endeavor, but that would give you complete control over the pond on your land.

I've heard many members here advise against having anything to do with so called "shared" ponds, simply because of issues like this, as well as any management issues that co-owners may differ on. You spend gobs of $$$ on stocking fish, structure and habitat just to have your neighbor invite the entire family over for a fish fry....on your dime.

I hope someone will come on and say I dont know what I'm talking about. Good luck, and please, keep us informed on whats going on.


Edited by Mike Whatley (12/29/18 06:22 PM)
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#500081 - 12/29/18 07:24 PM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: Bob Lusk]
Bill D. Offline


Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 6055
Loc: Boone County Illinois
Hi Dana,

Welcome to PBF!

Sorry for your problem. My first effort would be to get in touch with the owner of the land with the spillway and find out why it was removed and see if you can work out an amicable solution.

Good Luck,

Bill D.
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#501801 - 02/09/19 09:40 AM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: Bob Lusk]
Play It Koi Offline


Registered: 02/09/19
Posts: 1
Loc: Washington, US
Hi, My name is Ben. I've always been into fish, water, and landscaping ever since I can remember. I know it's a strange dream as most people want to be a doctor or firefighter or something when they grow up. However, ever since I was a little kid, my dream has always been to "own a fish store". &#128512; After talking about it for years and years, my wife and I finally decided to "take the plunge" (no pun intended) and open a pond store, called Play It Koi. We carry just about anything you can think of related to Koi Pond's, water features, and water gardens including all the equipment, pond plants, and even koi fish. We're coming up on our 3rd season and are really having a lot of fun with it. It's such a great community of people and I'm excited to join the Pond Boss Forums. Anyhow, I look forward to joining the community here and come visit us at https://PlayItKoi.com and say hi!
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#507782 - 06/19/19 08:31 PM Greetings from West Luther, Ontario [Re: Bob Lusk]
Kellyann Offline


Registered: 06/19/19
Posts: 1
Loc: Southwestern Ontario, Canada
Hi. We are two sisters born and raised in suburbia, near Toronto. At the age of 52 and 50, we pooled our resources and purchased a farm property 100 kms north of my work location.
I owned a horse and love the country life and wanted to care for my horse and have some peace and quiet. Who knew farm country is not quiet?
We both continued to work which had its own challenges. Now we are both retired!
The 50 acre farm produces organic forage, ie. grass hay. The property came with a 3/4 acre pond, likely surface water but may or may not have a spring. The pond is at the opposite end of the farm about 1 km away. It was completely clean around the edges, with gravel and a small "beach" area of sand. I mean it was bare.
Ten years later it is overgrown with grass, shrubs qnd is beginning to fill in with aquatic plants. I need some help to clean it up. Not to the former sterile pond but usable for swimming and wildlife. It doesn't support fish, no aeration- no power out there.
That's our story, we are hoping to learn things. Thank you for adding us.

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#507792 - 06/19/19 10:09 PM Re: Greetings from West Luther, Ontario [Re: Bob Lusk]
Joey Quarry Offline


Registered: 11/04/17
Posts: 160
Loc: Wisconsin
Welcome, Kellyann. You should start a thread with a pic or two and let the Pond Boss members get to work smile

I would guess you don't need much aeration with all the aquatic plants, they create DO all on their own. I am sure there are a few bugs and skeeters though and stocking some minnows might improve the beach experience by knocking those numbers down. They also attract birds of prey, if you are into wildlife viewing.

Just to move water around you could put in a solar fountain/pump. Any movement of the water will improve the swimming quality. I would suggest keeping as many plants in and around the pond to keep the water healthy without steady aeration.
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#509172 - 07/21/19 01:12 PM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: Bob Lusk]
cd24 Offline


Registered: 07/21/19
Posts: 1
Loc: Mississippi
Hi my name is Chancy me and my wife bought a section of land in Pattison Mississippi. It has a 5 acre pond on it and we have been reading a bunch of info on you’ll site that has helped us out alot with the pond. Still alot to lean and thanks for excepting us.

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#509176 - 07/21/19 02:15 PM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: Bob Lusk]
Dave Davidson1 Offline
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Registered: 01/04/06
Posts: 14124
Loc: Hurst & Bowie, Texas
Welcome Chancy and Wife.
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Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP

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#509192 - 07/22/19 05:36 AM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: Bob Lusk]
dipank Offline


Registered: 07/22/19
Posts: 2
Loc: Green land
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#510104 - 08/11/19 12:32 AM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: Bob Lusk]
TheJMZ Offline


Registered: 08/10/19
Posts: 2
Loc: Texas, USA
Thanks for allowing me to join. I grew up in North Texas and recently acquired some property near Farmersville, TX. This property was owned by my great-grandparents (once upon a time) and both my great-grandfather and grandfather did a bit of pond work.

I am currently looking @ expanding/reworking the existing pond, but I'm just getting into it.

It's around 17 acres. Any suggestions on how I might go about assessing the cost of a pond rework are appreciated.

Thanks, everyone,
-james

Overview Layout - note the 2 conjoined ponds


Current Pond Dimensions


Area needed for 1-acre pond (more or less). Is this the recommended size?


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#510107 - 08/11/19 07:35 AM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: Bob Lusk]
Dave Davidson1 Offline
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Registered: 01/04/06
Posts: 14124
Loc: Hurst & Bowie, Texas
A couple of considerations James. Generally, reworking means breaking the dam, draining and silt removal. Drying it out is step one. Due to built up muck, that can take a long time. The junk on the bottom will be the consistency of pudding and isn't machinery friendly.

The size of a new pond is dependent on runoff area. Well, there's also rain.
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It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP

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#510129 - 08/11/19 09:10 PM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: Dave Davidson1]
TheJMZ Offline


Registered: 08/10/19
Posts: 2
Loc: Texas, USA
Thanks for the tip; it makes sense. I hadn't considered the years of build-up at the bottom. All things considered, it might be better just to dig a new one and fill in the old one...sounds like to me.

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#512269 - 10/02/19 12:20 PM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: Bob Lusk]
VTLover Offline


Registered: 09/26/19
Posts: 1
Loc: Vermont
I live in Utah but own a family place in southern Vermont with a shallow pond of about one acre. Recently overcome with leeches, which makes swimming very unpleasant. Any ideas for getting rid of the leeches(or at least controlling them to a minimum)would be appreciated.

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#512277 - 10/02/19 02:45 PM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: Bob Lusk]
Quarter Acre Offline


Registered: 06/10/16
Posts: 1626
Loc: West Central Missouri
Welcome VT! Do you have fish in the pond? Pumpkinseed Sunfish are known to eat leeches voraciously.
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#512300 - 10/03/19 01:57 AM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: TheJMZ]
anthropic Offline


Registered: 05/03/14
Posts: 1957
Loc: East Texas, USA
Keep in mind that a 50 to 100 year flood plain does not flood once every 50 to 100 years. Rather, there is a one to two percent chance it will flood every year.
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#512499 - 10/08/19 07:25 PM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: Bob Lusk]
Neskcafeshorts Offline


Registered: 09/07/19
Posts: 6
Loc: MI
Hi I'm Bill from South Central Michigan. Dug my pond myself last fall. It is about 1/2 acre pond about 8 feet in the deepest areas. Stocked it with about 4 dozen minnows, 10 bass, and about 75 bluegill in the Spring. Well, here it fall and I have huge schools of minnows and baby bluegill and now that the water is clearer I noticed the bass spawned too. I counted about a dozen new 1/2 lb bass patrolling the shore line for minnows and baby bluegills. They must have eaten well this last summer. Looks like the bigger bass are deeper. Next year I'm thinking I'm going to have a bluegill explosion and will have to harvest. I feed the bluegill the purina game fish chow during the summer. The bluegill seem to really like it.

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#512501 - 10/08/19 09:14 PM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: Bob Lusk]
RStringer Offline


Registered: 06/06/18
Posts: 459
Loc: Parsons KS
Welcome cafe shorts. Congrats on building it youself. What kind of equipment did you use? You got any pictures of your place. Dock, riprap, zipline lol.
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#512502 - 10/08/19 09:15 PM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: Bob Lusk]
RStringer Offline


Registered: 06/06/18
Posts: 459
Loc: Parsons KS
Welcome cafe shorts (bill). I have to ask what's with the name? Congrats on building it youself. What kind of equipment did you use? You got any pictures of your place. Dock, riprap, zipline lol.
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#513405 - 10/28/19 01:33 AM Re: Welcome to Pond Boss [Re: RStringer]
Neskcafeshorts Offline


Registered: 09/07/19
Posts: 6
Loc: MI
Used a John Deere 650 bulldozer and and Komatsu 220 excavator. The bulldozer was about 11 tons and the excavator was 22 tons with s 22 foot reach. Learned alot; it's more than just a hole in the ground. Bulldozers are slow, but let that blade go to deep and it will throw you out of the cab. The excavator you have to watch when working in water; the mud splashes and splatters, and it has stones in the mud...smash out a window pretty easy.

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