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RS - WH produce flowers (except mine did not this year). These flowers will produce the seeds. Some folks from the Midwest have said that their WH have come back on their own in their pond from these seeds.

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I have found the one thread where Dale (dlowrance) from central Illinois and you (RStringer) have them reoccurring from year to year by seed...

http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=503633




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Is this your first year with them. How far are you from me. Parsons ks here.


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Mine that were floating freely around the bank were trapped in a thin layer of ice this am... I'll take pics of them as they change, I assumed it would burn the crap out of them but still green now.

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We got down to 39 last night. That's the lowest so far. I think the forecast is a low of 30 tonight. So should I leave them in the pond? Do they have a better chance of making it thur the winter in the pond? I would like a bunch of this but also dont wanta buy it. I'm not really a cheapskate I just like doing things in my own.


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Originally Posted By: RStringer
Is this your first year with them. How far are you from me. Parsons ks here.


According to google...Parsons KS is 3 hours and 40 minutes from where I live (north of Sedalia Mo). And, this was the first year with the WH in my pond.


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I might take half of them back to the pond. These will almost make a moble riprap. Since they float around it seems they will go in the direction the waves are going. Should slow down the erosion of the constant waves. I am wrong for thinking this? I have a buddy that leave in Jefferson. Some of the landscape up there is very nice looking.

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Originally Posted By: RStringer
Do they have a better chance of making it thur the winter in the pond? ...I just like doing things in my own.


I would take some inside now if you want to overwinter them. I think the odds are against any left outside surviving. You might get some to pop back from seeds if they were produced by the plants this year and are nestled in around the pond banks out of reach of mother winter, but I wouldn't count on it. There's a reason that they are not considered invasive this far north.

EDIT: I found an older thread of mine where you (RS) have them coming back every year. I wonder what makes your pond conducive to seed germination???...the proof is in your pudding!

Here's the thread again...

http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=503633

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shocked

3pm today...


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The banana tree and cannas are what I was talking about in that thread. Dlowrance is who had them coming bk. This is the first year I have had them and only bout a month or 2 at tht.


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Originally Posted By: RStringer
The banana tree and cannas are what I was talking about...


Thanks for clearing that up. Someone wasn't adding up, thought I'd slipped of into the twilight zone.


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Originally Posted By: Snipe
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3pm today...


Looks like 15 degrees will do it to it!


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Yeah.. 7:15am yesterday you couldn't really see any difference. When I went back yesterday afternoon that was a bit of a surprise so I'm going to guess the steamy layer on top of warmer water is only good to a certain point.

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No worries QA happens all the time to me. I live with 5 female (wife and 4 daughters) so I understand. I live in a twilight zone lol.


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No worries QA happens all the time to me. I live with 5 female (wife and 4 daughters) so I understand. I live in a twilight zone lol

Snipe is tht anchored down or they free floating.


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QA, I'm interested if any WH plants are starting to emerge this spring in your pond from last years experiment?

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I did not buy any for this year. My original suspicion of high nutrient levels was wrong and I have shifted my efforts to lillies and APW.

So, I have seen no WH that survived the winter, but I took all of them out last fall and have not witnessed any rouge plants floating around. The seed thing would be a concern, but I never got any flowers last year. I spent alot of time at the pond and I would have seem them had they bloomed.


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Thanks for the update, it was an interesting experiment!

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Originally Posted by Quarter Acre
I did not buy any for this year. My original suspicion of high nutrient levels was wrong and I have shifted my efforts to lillies and APW.

I must have missed this. What turned out to be your issue? Crayfish??


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My original concerns were, erroneously, high nutrient levels so I thought up this experiment to help reduce the nitrient levels. I based this concern on murky waters, thick funky blooms and a previous outbreak of FA. I also started dabbling in water test kits last year and came to the conclusion that it was not nutrient levels, but muddy waters from the crawdads and excess watershed and clay silts. Water tests consistantly showed low (to none) nitrates and phosphates. Not that I know alot about what I am doing, but this year I decided to not spend the time on the WH since mass plant growth and harvesting the WH seemed like a waste of time. I also have other hobbies that I am stoked about this year (72 Chevy Truck). Instead, I have downsized my plant efforts to a few lilypads and last year's APW that I got from Augie. They are all in hanging baskets off the dock so the craws don't get to them. Heres the hanging basket thread...

http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=520474#Post520474

All in all, I enjowed the WH and may do it again another year, but for now...I am going to concentrate on the muddy water, crawdad populations, wierd DO levels, and potted water veggies. That's enough for this year I think!


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