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#507341 - 06/13/19 08:42 AM Building a house next to my pond
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Registered: 04/15/19
Posts: 17
Loc: Louisiana
How close to a pond is to close? I've been doing some research and haven't really gotten a clear answer. I have a 2.5 acre pond on 4.12 acres. The way my pond was constructed (before I owned it) it didn't leave that much land. The peace of land that is big enough for me to build on is plenty long enough but it's the width that I'm worried about. From pond to property line I'm dealing with about 112ft. The house plans we are looking st range from about 45-55 foot wide. I need to keep the house atleast 20-25 foot away from the property line for my drive way. And if we go with the house plan of 55 foot width that puts the edge of my house about 30ft away from my pond give or take some footage according to how things play out. Is that to close? The pond edge that it will be bordering has a long slope not a drop off and the land (that I can tell) is solid. I plan to do a bulk head with 2x6's and possibly some aluminum with some anchors under ground to make it solid for erosion. I just don't want to have any foundation issues later on down the road. Is there a something I can do myself to test water seapage? Dig a hole? Or anything I can do to prevent foundation before building besides a pad? Anything you guys have would be appreciated, do y'all have houses close to your pond?

P.s. Sorry for the long post I've been running myself crazy over it. Thanks

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#507342 - 06/13/19 08:54 AM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: blkandst]
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Registered: 09/19/14
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Loc: Harrison Co. Texas
My lakehome is close to the waters edge, sometimes the waters edge is right up to the slab. The home is built on stilts with a post tension concrete slab. I think that is what is called, Hay, it was about 14 yrs ago when I built it and used an engineering company for recommendations.
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#507346 - 06/13/19 09:09 AM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: TGW1]
blkandst Offline


Registered: 04/15/19
Posts: 17
Loc: Louisiana
You think with the house sitting right on the slab won't be an issue? They have camps around here on stilts but I thought maybe the stilts house help the issue and mine will be sitting right on the slab

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#507347 - 06/13/19 09:23 AM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: blkandst]
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Maybe I am misunderstanding your question here but the stilts are only due to possible flooding here on Caddo Lake. The stilts are connected by "J" bolts that placed in the slab. If I remember correctly, the post tension slab was where cables were laid into the wet slab and then there was 60 thousand pounds applied to the slab through the cables. As far as the home being built on the slab, I don't think it would be any different than the stilts.


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#507348 - 06/13/19 09:40 AM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: blkandst]
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Registered: 12/26/12
Posts: 67
Loc: Mebane, NC

Check your local planning and building codes. In my area you are not allowed to build within 50' of a pond or even a seasonal creek. You can get a variance here but that would be a couple more hoops to jump through and more $$ in permit fees.

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#507349 - 06/13/19 09:59 AM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: blkandst]
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Registered: 04/11/19
Posts: 16
Loc: Newton, IA
Not sure if you will be on city sewer or will need a septic system. I wouldn't want my septic very close to the ponds edge. Just a thought.
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#507350 - 06/13/19 10:02 AM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: blkandst]
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Registered: 07/27/10
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Loc: Dallas & Wills Point, Tx
Originally Posted By: blkandst
do y'all have houses close to your pond?

Yes!

We wanted our cabins as close to the water as safely possible.

Of course every project/pond/drainage/soil/terrain/pond water fluctuation is going to be different, each with its own set of challenges.

Before we built the cabins we had Mike Otto come out for advice and Mike suggested we have a guy come out and laser shoot the land to see how high the water could get before the water would start to run down the emergency run-off area so we could be absolutely sure the water would be flooding down the emergency spillway long before it ever came close to the cabin. We've had really high water this past year and the water never came close to flooding the cabin.



ps: It's not a bad idea to keep some of these in the barn just in case we see high water coming:
Empty Sand Bags for flooding
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#507352 - 06/13/19 10:27 AM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: blkandst]
blkandst Offline


Registered: 04/15/19
Posts: 17
Loc: Louisiana
From the calls I made and from other houses I've seen there are no codes that it has to be a certain distance away, the septic tank will be about 60 feet away from the pond. When it comes to flooding and run offs I'll never have and issue. The land doesn't hold water and I'm building up a pad about 2 feet.

I was aware that the stilts were for flooding purposes, I live in south Louisiana about 25 minute drive to the golf so all the camps that way are all on stilts. I just wasn't sure if stilts helps the foundation factor. Incase one were to sink it could be shimmed where as my slab if one part were to sink from pond seepage, water table, whatever it may be it'll crack the foundation. I can solve the erosion problem, and I don't have a flood problem. It's just the fact I don't know is the land a couple feet under the ground is water logged and soft from the pond being so close and end up cracking my foundation. I'm new to a pond and for sure new to getting a house built. So I have no idea. And all the home builders around here won't come out and look until I get pre approved

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#507354 - 06/13/19 11:40 AM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: blkandst]
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Registered: 11/28/16
Posts: 192
Loc: Texas
A reputable builder (if you can find one) will want a soil test if there is any question. Then a pad can be built or piers can be sunk as appropriate. Just remember, when we get a hurricane, water can rise pretty high even on flat land. Build as high as possible and with an eye to possible sources of runoff. Also, look at the flood maps to be sure you are in an area of "least concern".
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#507358 - 06/13/19 12:32 PM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: blkandst]
Mike Whatley Offline


Registered: 04/22/18
Posts: 1210
Loc: Louisiana
What parish are you in?? I live in Calcasieu. The elevation code here is 13' above MSL. When I built my house, it was just after the flood of record on the Sabine, which put 6.25' of water in my yard and 4.5' in the house. We relocated and had to start from scratch. Dug a pond on my property to build up my pad. I told my pond/dirt guy to keep digging until he had the pad at least 15' elevation. Good thing I did because hurricane Harvey left 56" of water in my yard. 1.5 acres was reduced to 12' all around the house (barndomineum still under construction at the time) but the house stayed dry. If I had gone with the minimum requirement, I would've had 3 feet of water in the house.

My pond sits about 50' from my front door. Mechanical septic system is behind the house and was completely flooded during Harvey, but was no worst for wear afterward. Well sits about 50' from the pond but is 200' deep.
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#507362 - 06/13/19 01:16 PM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: Mike Whatley]
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Registered: 04/15/19
Posts: 17
Loc: Louisiana
Actually just talked to a guy at work about a soil sample. Doesn't cost an arm and a leg like I thought it would

My property is in iberia parish. The family I bought it from has been having it for about 150 years and it never flooded. They live across the road and right on the side of me. My property sits a heck of about higher than the land around me. A few miles of cane field would have to flood for me to flood. And my property has a big ditch in the front and back and got 2 smaller ones on each side that drains into those. I have a few low spots but other than them we can get a pour down all day and Not long after I'm try. I have 2 5" pint drains and 1 3" pumps out fast when it's high but once it gets to an inch or 2 above my full mark it takes about a day

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#507365 - 06/13/19 01:34 PM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: blkandst]
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Registered: 10/27/16
Posts: 457
Loc: Jefferson County Missouri
You may not like this idea, but if you're willing to give up a little of the pond, maybe you can lower the water level some to give you more room.
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#507371 - 06/13/19 03:05 PM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: blkandst]
Mike Whatley Offline


Registered: 04/22/18
Posts: 1210
Loc: Louisiana
Another option....drive pilings out in the pond and have your house partially over the water!!
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#507375 - 06/13/19 03:27 PM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: blkandst]
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Registered: 06/06/18
Posts: 217
Loc: Parsons KS
Theres another thread on where they damn up there pond and build then take the damn out. The water comes up on the foundation. Its a beautiful place.
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#507376 - 06/13/19 03:30 PM Re: Building a house next to my pond [Re: blkandst]
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Registered: 06/06/18
Posts: 217
Loc: Parsons KS
Look for "2009 project of the year award"
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