Pond Boss Magazine
http://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
khigh, Ari Rak, Mel-, Sdelaney, Fredly
16182 Registered Users
Forum Stats
16183 Members
36 Forums
37057 Topics
504096 Posts

Max Online: 1679 @ 09/17/19 10:01 PM
Top Posters
esshup 24033
Cecil Baird1 20043
ewest 19954
Dave Davidson1 14026
Bill Cody 12922
Who's Online
2 registered (teehjaeh57, Snipe), 488 Guests and 540 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Page 4 of 4 < 1 2 3 4
Topic Options
#506368 - 05/23/19 10:57 AM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: SetterGuy]
s252101 Offline


Registered: 11/14/16
Posts: 52
Loc: Missouri, Livingston County
Originally Posted By: SetterGuy
Love the grain bin gazebo! We have some friends in Chilli that have one by their pond. They have a few other friends that all have them. I think theyíve formed a grain bin gazebo society. Or something like that. Weíre all in our 60s so it could just be us old folks involved. Ha!
Also, my SMB have reproduced, and my SMB beds are not nearly as nicely made as yours are.
My county isnít listed as dry as Livingston, but my place was that dry. But the drought is now, way more than over. More rain coming through tonight.
Love to see the kids swimming early. We did the same. Looks great.


SetterGuy that's good news about your SMB. Now I need you to get out there and catch a few of your original stock and post some pictures. I would love to see how they have grown. Have they been in there 3 years yet?

Top
#506370 - 05/23/19 11:29 AM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: s252101]
SetterGuy Offline


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 1537
Loc: NE Missouri
Originally Posted By: s252101
Originally Posted By: SetterGuy
Love the grain bin gazebo! We have some friends in Chilli that have one by their pond. They have a few other friends that all have them. I think theyíve formed a grain bin gazebo society. Or something like that. Weíre all in our 60s so it could just be us old folks involved. Ha!
Also, my SMB have reproduced, and my SMB beds are not nearly as nicely made as yours are.
My county isnít listed as dry as Livingston, but my place was that dry. But the drought is now, way more than over. More rain coming through tonight.
Love to see the kids swimming early. We did the same. Looks great.


SetterGuy that's good news about your SMB. Now I need you to get out there and catch a few of your original stock and post some pictures. I would love to see how they have grown. Have they been in there 3 years yet?


This was last year. Havenít caught one this year, but see them moving in the shallow water. They were stocked 10/10/15, 4-8Ē. (60 of them) Hopefully they are 17-18Ē by now. Stocked along with 25 HSB that have never been seen again. whistle


Edited by SetterGuy (05/23/19 11:30 AM)
_________________________
5 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep.
RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (way too many), SMB, and HSB (rumored..)
I think that's about all I should put in my little pond.

Top
#506373 - 05/23/19 11:59 AM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: s252101]
s252101 Offline


Registered: 11/14/16
Posts: 52
Loc: Missouri, Livingston County
Originally Posted By: SetterGuy

This was last year. Havenít caught one this year, but see them moving in the shallow water. They were stocked 10/10/15, 4-8Ē. (60 of them) Hopefully they are 17-18Ē by now. Stocked along with 25 HSB that have never been seen again. whistle


Man that's a beautiful, healthy looking fish. So he went from 4-8" to 16" or so in shy of 3 years? I'd say you are doing well. If this chart is accurate, looks like that fish was on the high side of the medium growth rate. I'd be happy with similar results for sure. Looks like that fish should be pushing two pounds. Get out there and catch one so we can see this years class!


Edited by s252101 (05/23/19 12:00 PM)

Top
#506382 - 05/23/19 02:17 PM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: s252101]
s252101 Offline


Registered: 11/14/16
Posts: 52
Loc: Missouri, Livingston County
As winter progressed, we received a fair amount of snow, and a few rain showers on frozen ground which led to decent runoff. I was setting at about 2-3 feet from being at full pool in January '19. It hadn't been ridiculously cold as of yet, but as February rolled in, it got that way fast. I didn't think much of it, but the current water level and the building ice were about to become a problem.

Before sharing about that, know that where we are located is hit and miss for thick ice from year to year. There are some years we can not safely ice fish a single day, and there are others that we can fish, everyday, for 3 months straight. Up to this point, the ice hadn't been thick enough to get on, but it was about to get really thick for our area. February was cold for us. Several days with lows of -5 to -10 and highs barely reaching zero. The ice grew and grew, engulfing whatever was at the surface at that current level; this included nearly all of my Smallmouth logs, and of course, all of my dock posts.

This was really all fine, except for the scenario that happened next; we got quite a bit of snow, and then an inch of rain on a couple warmer days. The ice had made it to 8"+ thick by this point and the ground was still entirely frozen which meant 100% runoff of all the rain and melting snow. Water was rushing in. This set of circumstances is really unheard of around here, like I'm talking almost NEVER happens. For the most part, pond levels maintain during the winter, but rarely rise drastically until early spring. Also, we typically don't get ice that thick, and if we do, the air is very dry. We certainly don't usually have an inch of rain with 8" of ice on the bodies of water and snow on the ground. All the stars aligned for max runoff and that's what we got.

I came home from work that evening and was afraid to look. Exactly what I was worried about had happened; some of the runoff ended up on top of the ice (about 6" deep) and the rest had made its way under the ice and forced the whole mass upward. Since ice is strong and it was so thick, whatever it was attached to, it just brought with it. So, all my Smallmouth bed logs that were anchored with 200-300 lbs. of rock were ripped upward as the #9 wire had broken from the force. All that work would have to be re-done. Sigh.

To make matters worse, I noticed that the dock was sitting very awkwardly. As I walked out onto it, it was obvious that it had been lifted by the ice as well. I was a bit panicked because as it was still raining at a pretty good clip and all the tributaries were doing their part to add water to the pond. I rushed and grabbed the chainsaw and, while standing in 6" of water, began cutting around each of the dock posts. As I finished each cut, the dock would literally slam down almost a foot! To make matters worse, the Miss Behavin' was frozen in the slip making it all but impossible to get to a few of the posts. By the time I was done sawing and busting ice with a long pry bar, it was completely dark, still raining, and I was soaked from head to toe. I was beginning to think that if I didn't have bad luck with this project, I'd have no luck at all.

The dock was still structurally sound, but there was some permanent shifting that I will have to live with. The portions that were anchored to the large limestone rocks had lifted a little because the anchor rocks were not 100% straight below those points, so they rose in a bit of an arc if that makes sense. It was a great time, let me tell you.

For the remainder of the winter I made sure to keep the ice broken away from the posts when the forecast called for any precipitation. Eventually, the ice thawed and, by that time, the pond was within 6" of being full. I didn't get many pictures of the near disaster with the dock, as I was scrambling to salvage it rather than document the event. Thank goodness for spring.


Attachments
20190206_114939 (1).jpg (68 downloads)
20190206_114848 (1).jpg (61 downloads)
20190309_101132.jpg (53 downloads)
20190308_183046.jpg (67 downloads)
20190308_183057.jpg (54 downloads)
20190308_181602.jpg (57 downloads)
20190314_071552.jpg (80 downloads)


Top
#506386 - 05/23/19 04:27 PM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: s252101]
SetterGuy Offline


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 1537
Loc: NE Missouri
That last pic looks great. Youíve got to be proud of that. I didnít realize the dock would take you to the island as well.
Weíve had 3Ē in the last few days. Luckily just warnings for tornadoes and no sightings. I feel sorry for the folks in Jeff City.
_________________________
5 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep.
RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (way too many), SMB, and HSB (rumored..)
I think that's about all I should put in my little pond.

Top
#506442 - 05/24/19 01:00 PM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: SetterGuy]
s252101 Offline


Registered: 11/14/16
Posts: 52
Loc: Missouri, Livingston County
The last few weeks have been really wet for us. The first week of May was the first time water ever went down the overflow. I think it has been running most days since that time. The emergency spillway has even been used twice now. I set the grade on the emergency spillway to be about 8 inches higher than the lowest point of my overflow pipe. Since the dock is fixed, and at full pool the water is just an inch or two below the dock, I didn't ever want water to get too high on it. You will see in some of the pictures that the water is about half way up on the 2x12's on the dock. I'm not sure it would get much higher with an 8" pipe running full bore, and a 14' wide emergency spillway running a couple inches deep with only about 12-14 acres of runoff. My emergency spillway doesn't have any vegetation on it yet as I just got it to final grade after adding on to my overflow pipe and before putting my screen up this spring. The spillway is long, wide, flat, and dug into virgin ground so there was very minimal washing. I will probably seed it with a grass clover mix this fall. I had a few kamikaze Shiners that died up against the screen, but I saw several scurrying back to deeper water.

Now, onto the fun part; managing the body of water to produce fast growing, healthy Smallmouth, Walleye, and Yellow Perch. Here's where I am at thus far:

October 2018 - 20lbs. of FHM and 1000 Northern Crayfish
March 2019 - 100 Redears and 20lbs. of Golden Shiners
May 2019 - 30lbs. of FHM

Future Stocking Plan:
Fall 2019 - approx. 80 SMB and 200 YP
Spring 2020 - approx. 60 Walleye

My goal is to have fewer numbers and better quality. I'm hoping to have a massive forage base by this fall. I'm planning to build a .2 acre body of water to raise Shiners (and maybe another species) and supplement in the coming years. I'm really excited to get this off the ground and open to suggestions. I plan to aerate the pond with 4 diffusers once my budget allows later this year. Any advice would be greatly appreciated and I thank you in advance. I plan to periodically post and keep this all updated with successes/failures. I also plan to get my drone up and get some good footage to share when the weather calms down a bit (another 4-5" predicted for the next week).


Attachments
20190403_092144.jpg (71 downloads)
20190524_074258.jpg (69 downloads)
20190518_163900.jpg (80 downloads)
20190518_163908.jpg (63 downloads)
20190507_195818.jpg (58 downloads)
20190324_171707 (1).jpg (66 downloads)
20190518_165657.jpg (69 downloads)
20190518_165637 (1).jpg (66 downloads)
20190518_170117 (1).jpg (72 downloads)


Top
#506444 - 05/24/19 01:33 PM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: s252101]
roundy Offline


Registered: 09/10/16
Posts: 216
Loc: Beardstown, Illinois
Thanks for sharing your journey. The place looks 1st class all around.
_________________________
2 acres - FHM, GSH, PSC, RES, HBG, BG, LMB and YP
1 acre - filling with FMH, GSH, and PSC till fall 2020, then SMB and YP
I subscribe to PBM

Top
#506445 - 05/24/19 02:04 PM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: s252101]
SetterGuy Offline


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 1537
Loc: NE Missouri
Looks great! Also looks like your water is reasonably clear with all the rain weíve had. Just curious, where are you sourcing walleye?
My pond is gushing out the overflow pipe also. Trying to get some mowing done before the next storm system comes in. Went down to the pond last night and a huge ash tree from behind the dam toppled over, just barely into the water. It was history anyway due to ash bore. Iím losing 5 more around the house. frown
_________________________
5 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep.
RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (way too many), SMB, and HSB (rumored..)
I think that's about all I should put in my little pond.

Top
#506558 - 05/28/19 08:46 AM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: SetterGuy]
s252101 Offline


Registered: 11/14/16
Posts: 52
Loc: Missouri, Livingston County
Originally Posted By: SetterGuy
Looks great! Also looks like your water is reasonably clear with all the rain weíve had. Just curious, where are you sourcing walleye?
My pond is gushing out the overflow pipe also. Trying to get some mowing done before the next storm system comes in. Went down to the pond last night and a huge ash tree from behind the dam toppled over, just barely into the water. It was history anyway due to ash bore. Iím losing 5 more around the house. frown


Sorry it has taken me a few days to get back with you SetterGuy, busy weekend. The pond certainly has more color than I would like, but the amount of water coming in for the last month has been enough to fill this pond twice! Even with grass all the way around, there is a fair amount of turbidity.

I am getting my fish from NEMO fisheries out of Perry, MO. That can't be more than a couple hours from you I wouldn't think. They have been wonderful to work with and seem like doing a good job is top priority. They haven't tried to sell me fish, in fact, they have talked me out of certain things. Cody and Vince are the father/son that run the place.

It stinks losing an investment like a tree for sure. The only trees between my house and the pond are elm because that is all there was, and I am sure they will die in the next few years.

Top
#506560 - 05/28/19 10:10 AM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: s252101]
SetterGuy Offline


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 1537
Loc: NE Missouri
We lost a huge elm last year. On the trail to our pond, it was the biggest elm Iíve seen in a long time.
I like those guys at NEMO. They are 10 minutes from my pond. I did not know he had walleye. Iíll have to stop in. I knew he had YP. I think I have a pretty good population of YP. I really overstocked at the beginning.
_________________________
5 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep.
RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (way too many), SMB, and HSB (rumored..)
I think that's about all I should put in my little pond.

Top
#507897 - 06/21/19 02:55 PM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: SetterGuy]
s252101 Offline


Registered: 11/14/16
Posts: 52
Loc: Missouri, Livingston County
Originally Posted By: SetterGuy
We lost a huge elm last year. On the trail to our pond, it was the biggest elm Iíve seen in a long time.
I like those guys at NEMO. They are 10 minutes from my pond. I did not know he had walleye. Iíll have to stop in. I knew he had YP. I think I have a pretty good population of YP. I really overstocked at the beginning.


You ever stop in and check out their walleye stock? Any Smallies caught recently? Hope all is well.

Top
#507900 - 06/21/19 03:11 PM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: s252101]
s252101 Offline


Registered: 11/14/16
Posts: 52
Loc: Missouri, Livingston County
My next phase of the process is aeration. Again, I'm on a budget. I know most are probably saying "Oh Lord, he's cutting corners again". I'm looking forward to the challenge of a decent system with costs that aren't outrageous. I have read a fair amount on aeration and had a system drawn up from a company. The quote was way too much for me to even think about spending. Here's what I'm thinking:

-Compressor will sit at my shed (200 feet to waters edge)
-I plant to run the equivalent of 2" of airline to a manifold at the waters edge (it may be 2 - 1" lines together).
-I'm hoping to use 5 - 12" diffusers (the unique shape of the pond will require something like this)
-I plan to use pipe that is a little larger than 5/8" to feed each diffuser.
-Diffuser #1 = 200' @ 15' deep
-Diffuser #2 = 100' @ 17' deep
-Diffuser #3 = 250' @ 9' deep
-Diffuser #4 = 200' @ 10' deep
-Diffuser #5 = 140' @ 8' deep

My biggest question is whether the two pumps I am looking at will work.

Here they are:

Lifeline LL-RP80P

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BN563QY/?co...lv_ov_lig_dp_it

OxyMan OM800

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NR6UJO6/?co...lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Would either of these handle 5 diffusers with the length/diameter of pipe, depth/number of diffusers? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I will document the process and report back as it progresses.

Top
#507913 - 06/21/19 05:20 PM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: s252101]
SetterGuy Offline


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 1537
Loc: NE Missouri
Originally Posted By: s252101

You ever stop in and check out their walleye stock? Any Smallies caught recently? Hope all is well.


I was there on Saturday. They donít have either right now. Said they will have YP in when it cools off in the fall. Not sure about WE, I asked, and they arenít sure.

Iíve posted the pic of my daughter holding up a 17Ē SMB in two other threads. Iím afraid Iíll get booted out of the forum if I post it again. Ha! 17Ē is our biggest one to date though. Daughter had a blast catching it.

Edit, I canít answer you aeration questions. My pond is 900 feet from the barn. Not running electrical or air lines that far. Plus a big ravine to go through. If they ever get solar aeration affordable, Iíll go that way.


Edited by SetterGuy (06/21/19 05:22 PM)
_________________________
5 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep.
RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (way too many), SMB, and HSB (rumored..)
I think that's about all I should put in my little pond.

Top
#507914 - 06/21/19 05:39 PM Re: Drone footage of pond build - Livingston Co., MO [Re: SetterGuy]
s252101 Offline


Registered: 11/14/16
Posts: 52
Loc: Missouri, Livingston County
Originally Posted By: SetterGuy
Originally Posted By: s252101

You ever stop in and check out their walleye stock? Any Smallies caught recently? Hope all is well.


I was there on Saturday. They donít have either right now. Said they will have YP in when it cools off in the fall. Not sure about WE, I asked, and they arenít sure.

Iíve posted the pic of my daughter holding up a 17Ē SMB in two other threads. Iím afraid Iíll get booted out of the forum if I post it again. Ha! 17Ē is our biggest one to date though. Daughter had a blast catching it.

Edit, I canít answer you aeration questions. My pond is 900 feet from the barn. Not running electrical or air lines that far. Plus a big ravine to go through. If they ever get solar aeration affordable, Iíll go that way.


I have my fingers crossed for SMB and WE for this fall/next spring.

I found your post with the SMB your daughter caught. Beautiful fish and family!

I'm hoping that some guys who know a bit will chime in. I know I could post in the aeration topics, but would like to keep everything on this one thread. We'll see...

Top
Page 4 of 4 < 1 2 3 4

Today's Birthdays
ladydamask
Recent Posts
How many times can you catch...?
by Snipe
Today at 12:58 AM
New Pond Project
by MWB
Yesterday at 11:27 PM
Adjusting Feed Rates in BG Rearing Pond
by MOFishermen
Yesterday at 10:54 PM
Chronicles of stocking Hybrid Striped Bass......
by jpsdad
Yesterday at 07:34 PM
Test For Naegleria Fowleri, Brain Eating Amoeba...
by John Fitzgerald
Yesterday at 06:56 PM
What did you do at your pond today?
by roundy
Yesterday at 05:28 PM
Forage pond question
by ewest
Yesterday at 02:57 PM
Water Chemistry Log by QA
by Quarter Acre
Yesterday at 02:19 PM
Help with this plant PLEASE
by ewest
Yesterday at 01:10 PM
Plastic structure
by ewest
Yesterday at 01:08 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Personal Record BGxRES
Harry's Pond
pond view
Fishing Colorado...finally
Releasing a quick snack
Tadpoles

© 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide