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#506531 - 05/26/19 09:53 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: SetterGuy]
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Originally Posted By: SetterGuy
Year to date numbers, according to climate dot com. St. Louis = 24.5”, our place up by Center MO 17.5”. It was running 2:1 with St Louis getting twice as much, but the farm has been catching up. My water is the brownest it’s ever been, except when it was filled.


Climate dot com is only about 70-80% accurate when compared to my official "CoCoRahs" reporting gauge. I guess Climate.com is OK if it's all one has.
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#506534 - 05/27/19 12:05 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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John, I think I've got a couple inches less Than what Jeff posted. Sounds like you been getting around double what I've been getting. My pond might be full if I had gotten 50" of rain already this year. lol! Wow that's a lot of rain, I wish I could get that much.
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#506535 - 05/27/19 12:14 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: snrub]
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We have had about a foot 8n the Last week.
I'd be happy if I could get half that much. lol!
They just said on the news that St. Louis got .96 this morning, I'm about 20 miles south of St. Louis and I didn't even get enough to get a reading. lol!
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#506542 - 05/27/19 11:23 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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John, I think I've got a couple inches less Than what Jeff posted. Sounds like you been getting around double what I've been getting. My pond might be full if I had gotten 50" of rain already this year. lol! Wow that's a lot of rain, I wish I could get that much.


Bob, that 50" was in the past 365 days, not for 2019 so far.
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#506553 - 05/27/19 11:32 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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John, I sure thought that sounded like a lot of rain. lol!
Yesterday I saw the first FHM fry of the year. Today I saw another turtle, much bigger than the other one. I hope I don't get to many of them. lol!
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#506561 - 05/28/19 10:16 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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The painted turtles are really migrating right now in MO. I was out and about all weekend, and saw several. A few snappers, but mostly painted turtles. (The flat ones) they may not actually be “painted” turtles. Glad your FHM are doing well. Mine have totally disappeared. At one time I thought I had too many!
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#506566 - 05/28/19 11:25 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Jeff, we went to the farm till Sunday afternoon, it's near St. James. I saw a lot of turtles on the back roads. I think I saw more snappers than anything. The farm is on the river, and there are lots of ponds in the area. We have 2, that I would put more effort into but they only want to go down there a few times a year.
I did see a few BG feeding with the FHM this morning. I thought I'd seen some before, but today was the first time I was sure.
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#506576 - 05/28/19 04:02 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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The FHM will disappear within a year of stocking LMB or SMB. Mine have. The Gambusia are still plentiful in the newer pond, don't know how they survive with hordes of small LMB.
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#506658 - 05/30/19 10:52 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Bob,
Did you get more rain? We had 1.94 inches yesterday, but it took all day, and part of the evening. Old leaker is now only down 10 inches, and newer pond is overflowing again.
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#506668 - 05/30/19 12:57 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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John, St. Louis got just under a inch again, I got a .10". I just can't get a break. Lol!
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#506686 - 05/30/19 09:00 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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In 2019 so far: we received exactly 24.5" at our place.
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#506688 - 05/30/19 09:20 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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We got 2.75 inches here today in less than an hour. 16 days since we had any recordable amounts, but that brings my YTD total to 29".
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#506692 - 05/30/19 10:26 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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#506695 - 05/30/19 10:50 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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I'll be honest, I'm in shock that I haven't had one rain that big all year.
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#506707 - 05/31/19 07:38 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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I am too Bob. This is like 1993 as far as the amount of rainfall is concerned. We’ve had about 20” at the farm. 25” here in St Louis. Two more inches in the last few days up north.
You may want to look at drilling a well. Especially if you are going to build a home overlooking the pond.
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#506725 - 05/31/19 03:37 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Jeff, I probably won't be able to do anything until we build, but I do plan on trying to up size the well pump when we do, so I can feed the pond some.
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#506879 - 06/04/19 08:06 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Bob, it looks like you are getting some rain at your pond right now. 6/4/19 at 7:05 PM.
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#506882 - 06/04/19 09:41 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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John, I did just get a little but not much. On the news, the radar looked like I was going to get more, but it was more thunder than rain and didn't last long. I haven't been out to check the rain gauge yet, but looking out the window, I don't see any puddles. This morning on the news, they said I should see 2"-4" from today thru Sunday. I won't hold my breath. lol! My ground is already getting pretty dry, and will take a good rain to give me much in the pond.
I had about a 12" snapper at the pond today, but looked like he was leaving, I hope. lol!
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#506900 - 06/05/19 08:21 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Bob, If this keeps up you might have the only ground above water in Missouri. Everywhere is flood flood flood... My renter went ahead and planted beans yesterday. He said it wasn’t pretty, but they are in. I’m just hoping now that they don’t rot in the ground. More rain coming. Looks like for the next two weeks at least.
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#506913 - 06/05/19 01:34 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Jeff, you may be right. Lol! I see the flood waters every day going to work and back and it drives me crazy watching it get higher every day, while my pond gets lower every day. Lol!
I got about .12" of rain last night, even less than I thought it would be. Lol!
The only good thing I can say, is the pond keeps getting clearer, the longer it goes without any real rain. Lol!
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#506922 - 06/05/19 05:41 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Bob, I don't know what to say. You may need to doze those woods away, and pack the ground like a parking lot to get enough run off in a small watershed. cool
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#506929 - 06/05/19 10:54 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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John, you may be right. lol! I wasn't planning to go that far, but I am waiting for my guy to come out and do some clearing and whatever else he can to get me more run off, without making to big of a mess or costing to much.
I'm getting more rain tonight, not sure how much but I know I've got more than last night.
I still don't have a lot of the BG coming up to feed, but I'm getting more about every day. Last week I only had a few, today it might of been as many as 2 or 3 dozen. Now when I walk up you can see them watching for me to feed them.
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#506940 - 06/06/19 07:32 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Weather man says we have had about 29" so far in 2019 here in central, Boone County, MO, has been kinda weird tho, the last week or so it has been going around Boone county, counties to the North and South received a good bit more then we did.
That being said, one doesnt have to travel very far here to reach the flood waters for the Mo River, devastating to a huge part of this area. Creating major changes to the eco system of the river, and anything along its banks, getting close to 93 flood levels, has already reached it in places.
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#506947 - 06/06/19 09:20 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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We received 0.34" rain overnight, with little run off. Typical small rains that only delay the haying further, being already 3-4 weeks behind.
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#506961 - 06/06/19 01:45 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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I got about .80" last night. It gave me about 1.25" in the pond. A month ago that much rain would of probably gave me double or more in the pond.
This morning they backed it down to maybe another 1" of rain by Sunday.
The Mississippi has everything backed up around here. The way I understand, it is mostly from the rains up north.
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