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#493054 - 07/01/18 05:27 PM Re: Grandmother's old pond. [Re: chunting]
Mike Whatley Online   content


Registered: 04/22/18
Posts: 812
Loc: Louisiana
Dang chunting!!! If I can get my little hole of mutts to raise something anywhere near those fish I'm gonna be one happy camper!!
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#493059 - 07/01/18 06:47 PM Re: Grandmother's old pond. [Re: chunting]
chunting Offline


Registered: 12/27/15
Posts: 30
Loc: North Louisiana
I generally remove all bluegill from 6-8 inches and put them in the fryer. smile "Generally." If its a male and has a particularly well defined shape, it might get a pass. Nothing I do is "set in concrete." Most females are removed. If we catch it on a hook and it is under 6 inches, it gets a pass or ends up as bait for our larger bass, those over 16 inches. We remove those and put in fryer. Our goal is have a large population of smaller bass working on the small bluegills. I use two minnow and one baitfish trap to mechanically remove smaller bluegills as well. At this moment our small bass are too fat, indicating they are not keeping up their end of the bargain, so I've been catching small bass from another pond and putting in ours to help out. Our pond is in good shape now for the bass to easily capture the little stuff. You can sit on the porch and watch small bass blowing up small bluegills all day long now.

I'm raising copper nose bluegill and some red ears, not green sunfish or GS/CBG hybrids. All of those we catch either end up in the fryer or tossed on the bank for our resident coons to dispose of.

If you scroll back up to that 1 pound 5.5 oz female I'm holding.....she got a pass. smile

I fillet all the eating fish myself.

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#493061 - 07/01/18 08:05 PM Re: Grandmother's old pond. [Re: chunting]
jpsdad Offline


Registered: 05/20/18
Posts: 259
Loc: Texas
Thanks chunting for this detailed description of your strategy. How many trapped fish must your crop currently? Just an estimate of how many you think you might have to crop until the bass take over.

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#493063 - 07/01/18 09:03 PM Re: Grandmother's old pond. [Re: chunting]
Mike Whatley Online   content


Registered: 04/22/18
Posts: 812
Loc: Louisiana
My strategy is much the same but my population of panfish isn't very high right now. Ive only got 3 LMB stocked right now and so far they seem to be doing good at crowd control. Hopefully I'll see at least marginal recruitment of those next spring and will be able to remove the larger bass once they hit 15". I probably have less than a dozen BG over 6". But there's a good next generation of 2-4" fish on their heels. I'll be adding a few more LMB by fall to give them a better chance come spring and my two cloverleafs stand at the ready if I need to get more aggressive. Time will tell. I'm glad my plan sounds like it might just pay dividends.
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#497251 - 10/06/18 02:37 PM Re: Grandmother's old pond. [Re: chunting]
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Registered: 12/27/15
Posts: 30
Loc: North Louisiana
We had a four month drought that dropped our pond level 24+ inches. During this period we stopped all sampling because we didn't want to stress our larger bluegills. Now that recent rains have raised the pond some we decided to do a sample. Here are the results. I use the following site to determine RW.

http://www.aces.edu/dept/fisheries/rec_fishing/RWCalc.php

Our first fish over 10 inches.



We caught 18 bluegill and two redears. We sampled 16 bluegill and tossed two 6 in BG back without measuring. The two readears were 8 in and 9 in and weighed 8 oz and 9 oz.



We use a Chatillon 2 pound spring scale graduated in half ounce increments to weigh. The hook on the scale is much too large to secure a bluegill without hooking in the gills. I modified the hook with the addition of a #8 barbless hook I use tying flies. It is easy to hook in the lips and remove leaving only a pin size hole. My wife used the same hook with crickets to catch nine and I used a fly with #10 barbless hook to catch seven.

I was a little disappointed, believing we might catch some pushing 24 oz. We might be a little too optimistic but there are larger BGs swimming around. We feed three times a day with a 50/50 mix of Aquamax 500 and 600. Our basic management plan is to release all BG under 6 in and over 8 in and remove most females. We release all bluegills over 16 oz unless deep hooked or injured. Due to low numbers of 6 to 8 in slot BG we are releasing them until we get a better read on their numbers.

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#497257 - 10/06/18 08:26 PM Re: Grandmother's old pond. [Re: chunting]
snrub Offline


Registered: 10/05/13
Posts: 5404
Loc: SE Kansas
What a beautiful fish.

Great job!
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#497268 - 10/06/18 11:19 PM Re: Grandmother's old pond. [Re: chunting]
scott69 Offline
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Registered: 07/12/08
Posts: 1082
Loc: Chambers county(Valley), alaba...
the easiest way i found to weigh them without injury is to place them in a plastic Walmart bag. the fish usually don't flop around much in the bag and you don't have to worry about hanging them on the scales with the big hook.
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#497275 - 10/07/18 07:58 AM Re: Grandmother's old pond. [Re: scott69]
Clay N' Pray Offline


Registered: 12/03/17
Posts: 205
Loc: Caswell co NC
Originally Posted By: scott69
the easiest way i found to weigh them without injury is to place them in a plastic Walmart bag. the fish usually don't flop around much in the bag and you don't have to worry about hanging them on the scales with the big hook.


Excellent idea!
So simple but so effective.

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#497276 - 10/07/18 08:25 AM Re: Grandmother's old pond. [Re: chunting]
Mike Whatley Online   content


Registered: 04/22/18
Posts: 812
Loc: Louisiana
If you take a small bucket with water in it you can tare the scale out and still get an accurate weight when you put the fish in the bucket. If the scale won't take, just note the bucket/water weight and do the math. Very little to no stress on the fish at all.
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#498676 - 11/13/18 12:53 PM Re: Grandmother's old pond. [Re: chunting]
RStringer Offline


Registered: 06/06/18
Posts: 68
Loc: Parsons KS
You have a beautiful spot. Thanks for sharing the pictures. Gives me something to look forward to.
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#504310 - 04/13/19 12:52 AM Re: Grandmother's old pond. [Re: chunting]
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Registered: 12/27/15
Posts: 30
Loc: North Louisiana
Pond has now been stocked three years and 2 months. I've dealt with severe back issues since last October and had back surgery a couple weeks back. The bride is doing all the mowing and grunt work around the pond for now. Fortunately we had it in pretty good shape before hand. Other than having a medium size cottonmouth bolt ahead of the mower into the pond, not much excitement. Redears are moving on beds and bass have been bedding since last month. We sampled five coppernose this week, all over a pound with the three best weighing in at 1# 4.5 oz, 1# 5.5oz. and the bride's 1# 6 oz dandy shown here. I believe we have 1# 8oz plus swimming around. Hope to find a couple as we began sampling more. Our redears should be pushing a pound. We weighed two last fall that came in at 12 oz.



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#504312 - 04/13/19 01:50 AM Re: Grandmother's old pond. [Re: scott69]
anthropic Offline


Registered: 05/03/14
Posts: 1703
Loc: East Texas, USA
Originally Posted By: scott69
the easiest way i found to weigh them without injury is to place them in a plastic Walmart bag. the fish usually don't flop around much in the bag and you don't have to worry about hanging them on the scales with the big hook.


Good idea, Scott! A hefty black plastic garbage bag might be even better for large bass. They can slip off too easily & injure themselves falling to the bottom of the boat, plus there is the danger of too much weight on their jaw. Black color good because fish, like most animals, tend to calm down when in darkness. Just make sure to put a little water in bag so they don't lose slime coat.
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