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#501952 - 02/13/19 01:47 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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I thought I'd do an update. Still no gully washers for me, but I've had a lot of smaller rains, and the pond has kept inching it's way up. I went by yesterday and it was the highest it's been so far. Not by much (about 6"), but it's nice to see it higher than it's ever been. I knew it was getting close to being back up to where it was last March when it first came up but soaking it all up, so I started comparing pictures from then and now, and it's been higher than last March for about two weeks now. I think it's at about 10' now and has about 9' to go. Still seems to be doing the same as far as when it comes up to a new level it drops a little faster at first, then slows down when it's been around the same level for a while.

For a little while there, I was hoping for no rain so things could dry out enough so I could have my pond builder come out and work on my watershed area to improve my run off. Then I twisted my bad knee a few weeks ago, so I went back to hopping for rain until my knee gets better. lol!
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#501955 - 02/13/19 03:04 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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You mentioned 'hopping' for rain. Doing the rain dance with a bad knee might set you back a little further... wink

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#501957 - 02/13/19 03:09 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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We have had several soakers here since first of the year. My new pond is over the spillway for the ninth time since being built in December 2016, and the old leaker got to within three inches of the spillway yesterday, but is now down 3/4 of an inch.
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#501959 - 02/13/19 03:50 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Canyoncreek, I meant hoping. lol! I already know my rain dance is no good or my pond would be full already. lol!

John, there has been lots of big rains just south of me, they just don't make it all the way up to me. lol! It's been almost a year since I've had a big enough rain to give me run off from above the sediment pond.
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#501968 - 02/13/19 09:39 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Bob, looks like we’ve got a bit more moisture coming in the next week or so. I hope you get it full this winter. With the ground frozen hopefully you’ll get great runoff. St Louis is still getting twice the rainfall that I’m getting up north. Hope you’re getting a lot of it.
Post a pic or two when you get a chance.
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#501971 - 02/13/19 10:32 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Our ground has only been frozen superficially this winter. The lowest we have had is 11 degrees, and not for long at that. Ponds never been completely iced in.
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#501972 - 02/13/19 11:56 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Thanks Jeff, here is a few pictures. The frozen one is from today and the others are from about a week ago. Not much to look at yet.


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#501973 - 02/14/19 12:06 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: John Fitzgerald]
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Originally Posted By: John Fitzgerald
Our ground has only been frozen superficially this winter. The lowest we have had is 11 degrees, and not for long at that. Ponds never been completely iced in.
John, I think mine has been iced over off and on, around a 3rd of the winter.
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#501975 - 02/14/19 07:17 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Originally Posted By: Bobbss
Thanks Jeff, here is a few pictures. The frozen one is from today and the others are from about a week ago. Not much to look at yet.


Shaped like a slice of pie!

Is the overflow at the far end of the picture? Or is that where water will enter.


Edited by snrub (02/14/19 07:18 AM)
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#501978 - 02/14/19 08:43 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Originally Posted By: Bobbss
Thanks Jeff, here is a few pictures. The frozen one is from today and the others are from about a week ago. Not much to look at yet.


It looks like it would suffer from too much water coming in. Those are steep hills going up above the water line. My agent wanted me to have 10 ac of drainage for a 1 ac pond. You’ll hopefully get some good gully washers soon.
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#501984 - 02/14/19 12:04 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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The pictures make it look like there is not enough watershed, unless there is much more past the bottoms of the pictures.
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#501985 - 02/14/19 12:20 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: snrub]
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Originally Posted By: snrub
Originally Posted By: Bobbss
Thanks Jeff, here is a few pictures. The frozen one is from today and the others are from about a week ago. Not much to look at yet.


Shaped like a slice of pie!

Is the overflow at the far end of the picture? Or is that where water will enter.
That is where the water comes in,at least if I get a big enough rain. Lol! That's the little sediment pond. It will always be some what of a slice of pie shape, but should round out a little when it gets full.
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#501987 - 02/14/19 12:36 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: SetterGuy]
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Originally Posted By: SetterGuy
Originally Posted By: Bobbss
Thanks Jeff, here is a few pictures. The frozen one is from today and the others are from about a week ago. Not much to look at yet.


It looks like it would suffer from too much water coming in. Those are steep hills going up above the water line. My agent wanted me to have 10 ac of drainage for a 1 ac pond. You’ll hopefully get some good gully washers soon.
Jeff, that steepness is the main reason I get as much run off as I do. The biggest part of my watershed is so heavily wooded that it takes a really big rain before it gives me any run off. I have about 7 acres of watershed for what I hope will be a .75 pond, so about the same as you.
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#501988 - 02/14/19 12:47 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Ok, got it.
Just back from the pond. I’ve actually got water coming out the overflow pipe. Still frozen over. This is the longest I’ve ever had it iced over. No snow on the ice, so I think the fish are ok. I hope so anyway. Going to be 18 here tonight and in the 20s at night for the next two weeks. I don’t think the ice is going anywhere.
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#501990 - 02/14/19 01:03 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: John Fitzgerald]
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Originally Posted By: John Fitzgerald
The pictures make it look like there is not enough watershed, unless there is much more past the bottoms of the pictures.
John, most of the watershed area is above the little sediment pond. Of the 7 acres of watershed I have, probably around 4 acres or more are above the sediment pond. I'm sure a little water seeps down to the pond from up there, but I haven't seen it run off from up there since last March. It's came close to filling up the sediment pond a few times since then, and was right there last week and I thought it was going to start flowing from the sediment pond, but no such luck. Lol! Another half inch of rain and it would of been flowing. Lol! Things are wet enough right now that a good size rain would give me a lot of run off. I really need to get him out here and work on my upper watershed so I can get better run off.


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#501991 - 02/14/19 01:14 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Jeff, glad to hear your pond is full!I hope I can say the same one day. Lol! I'll be glad when all this ice stuff is over. Lol!
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#503783 - 03/30/19 10:17 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Bob, you getting some of this? 2”+ here in St Louis. Of course, .6 up north, but I. Hoping you’re getting a lot of runoff with this.
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#503787 - 03/31/19 12:28 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Thanks Jeff, I got about 1.6". I finally got a little run off from the upper water shed, but it was near the end of the rain when it started flowing out of the sediment pond. At about 4:30 when I checked it last, the rain had been stopped for an hour or so but it was still trickling in, so I'm hoping it will come up a little more yet. So far it was up about 13" from this rain. The big question is how much it will soak up. lol! It was holding pretty good for a while there, very little drop, until a few weeks ago when I'm guessing the ground started thawing out and it started soaking up a lot again, which I figured it was going to. Right now it's the highest it's ever been, at a little over 11'.
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#503790 - 03/31/19 09:36 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Well, I would have thought you’d have been running out the spillway. Seemed like yesterday’s rain was never going to end. Looks like lore rain in the forecast.


Edited by SetterGuy (03/31/19 10:09 AM)
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#503811 - 03/31/19 09:06 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Jeff, I wish. lol! I was surprised to get as much as I did out of 1.60" of rain. It cam up another 4" over night for a total of about 17". Still not what I call a gully washer, which it's been a full year now since I've had one of those. If I would of got 3"-4" I'd call it a gully washer, but I still don't think that would of filled it, but might of got close. Hopefully I'll get some more good rains while things are still wet enough to give me some good run off.

The FHM seem to be liking the Optimal, and are feeding better all the time. They even feed pretty good today after the rain and a big temp drop.
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