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#501624 - 02/06/19 11:10 AM Re: common carp [Re: nehunter]
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in shopping capsule size 000 is biggest, and 5 is smallest. I see ebay listing for small numbers of small size (say size 3) which is probably a useful size to work with.

What other foods would Carp target outside of bread balls? They are herbivores so maybe we can put the capsule in some brussel sprouts?

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#501629 - 02/06/19 01:36 PM Re: common carp [Re: nehunter]
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If it helps any, of all of our Carp derbys it seems strawberry flavor seems to be quite effective..??
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#501639 - 02/06/19 03:52 PM Re: common carp [Re: nehunter]
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Fascinating stuff guys. Thanks for lending your knowledge to this thread.
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#501648 - 02/06/19 05:49 PM Re: common carp [Re: nehunter]
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We don't know what the lethal dose is for various sizes of carp. Another idea is to make gelatin pills. You can buy flavored (strawberry) or unflavored gelatin. Dissolve gelatin as stronger concentration for more solid final product. Add your chemical to toxic concentration allow gelatin to set up and slice up into pill form or edible sizes. Feed as pellets or insert "pill" into the doughball.
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#501649 - 02/06/19 06:07 PM Re: common carp [Re: canyoncreek]
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Originally Posted By: canyoncreek

What other foods would Carp target outside of bread balls? They are herbivores so maybe we can put the capsule in some brussel sprouts?


FINALLY a good use for brussel sprouts!
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#501653 - 02/06/19 07:35 PM Re: common carp [Re: nehunter]
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corn, with vanilla, sugar let soak over night and put on hook. Use drop sinker at bottom and hook approx. a foot above. Put a little rock on a big rock and position rod wedged against smaller rock. let the critter pull a few times and when he takes a long pull enjoy.

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#502772 - 03/07/19 09:50 AM Re: common carp [Re: nehunter]
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Someone please mark this in their favorites and if you do try targeted carp 'poison pellets' or some other way to entice carp to consume the targeted product, please come back and let us know.

I think if a few people try different things we'll find a technique that works well and many others can benefit. Necessity is the mother of invention.

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#502777 - 03/07/19 10:27 AM Re: common carp [Re: nehunter]
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TJ and I discussed this last week. I believe I may try to incorporate some combination of the above this summer.
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#502779 - 03/07/19 11:02 AM Re: common carp [Re: nehunter]
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I'm a little hung up on ONLY targeting the carp with the baited feed. Surely other fish will be enticed to eat the bait. I suppose some collateral damage can be accepted?

I have caught many carp while fishing for other species, included baits have been...

earthworms while fishing for BG and CC,
canned corn while fishing for BG,
jigs while fishing for BG and crappie, and
small bread wads for panfish.

I can't think of anything that carp like that others do not. Well, maybe brussel sprouts..LOL! (I bet TP even like that)

To reduce the collateral damage, one could feed train the carp and then one un-expecting day hit them with the "stuff" so long as other species haven't joined the party. IDK
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#502802 - 03/07/19 10:17 PM Re: common carp [Re: nehunter]
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If you are targeting the biggest carp, and if they are used to targeting a 'feeding area', then the size of the gelatin blob saturated with the toxin, or the size of the breadball might give you a way to be selective. If you use corn, then it is possible that a variety of smaller fish might sample the corn as well.

The good news is that the published levels of pyrethroids that are toxic to goldfish/carp is much lower than BG and other fish. SO there is some built in selectiveness in the way the 'toxin' works.

Also if the chemicals are drifting out of the bread balls, the density is such that it stays on the bottom. In this way bottom feeders would be targeted more directly again.


Edited by canyoncreek (03/07/19 10:17 PM)

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#502803 - 03/07/19 10:26 PM Re: common carp [Re: nehunter]
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So if a non-targeted fish, like a BG, eats some of the bait with the toxin, will the toxin remain in the meat of the fish, even if it is not enough to kill it?
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