Pond Boss Magazine
http://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
kart52, Cody Sandhoff, alfachemistry, txfishguy, Bruced
15936 Registered Users
Forum Stats
15937 Members
36 Forums
36600 Topics
498580 Posts

Max Online: 1210 @ 08/23/18 11:01 PM
Top Posters
esshup 24033
Cecil Baird1 20043
ewest 19807
Dave Davidson1 13822
Bill Cody 12796
Who's Online
4 registered (Cody Sandhoff, Snipe, teehjaeh57, Joey Quarry), 84 Guests and 172 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Topic Options
#499245 - 12/03/18 09:10 PM Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas
jamesbond Offline


Registered: 12/03/18
Posts: 3
Loc: Magnolia, TX
Good evening,

This is James Bond, from the greater Houston (Magnolia, TX) area.

I have a family residence with some land, maybe 8 or so acres where my some of my family members reside.

We want to dig a pond, just big enough to keep some freshwater fish, and maybe some (nishikigoi) Koi fish?

Our original thought was to dig a pond 15 feet in diameter and about 5ft deep but I was told, by the folk who referred me to this site, that such dimensions (15ft by 5ft) would be too small for any type of freshwater fish.

So my question is, what is the smallest pond size that can support some freshwater fish in South East Texas (Houston, TX) area?


We primarily want this pond for some aesthetics and some fish, nothing commercial or for fishing etc, just for family viewing pleasure and catch the odd fish now and then.

What do you folks suggest please?

Cheers,

James

Top
#499246 - 12/03/18 09:30 PM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: jamesbond]
anthropic Offline


Registered: 05/03/14
Posts: 1752
Loc: East Texas, USA
.007 of a hectare, James. Shaken, not stirred.
_________________________
8ac E Tx, full 3/16. CNBG, RES, FHM 10/15; TP 5/16; FLMB 6/16. 100 12" NLMB & 1k GSH 10/17. 150# TP & 70 HSB 5/18. 1k PK 11/18. 100# TP 4/19





Top
#499247 - 12/03/18 09:34 PM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: anthropic]
jamesbond Offline


Registered: 12/03/18
Posts: 3
Loc: Magnolia, TX
Originally Posted By: anthropic
.007 of a hectare, James. Shaken, not stirred.


That's tiny, like Austin Powers' mojo



Edited by jamesbond (12/03/18 09:42 PM)

Top
#499295 - 12/04/18 08:43 PM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: jamesbond]
Bill Cody Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent

Lunker

Registered: 04/18/02
Posts: 12796
Loc: Northwest Ohio - Malinta OH
A pond 15 ft in diameter and 5 ft deep can raise a lot of fish if it has a flow through system. Amount of flow will determine type and amount of fish. There is a lot of information on the web for building and maintaining a backyard "lily" pond for which some of them are quite large.
_________________________
Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management

Top
#499296 - 12/04/18 09:49 PM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: jamesbond]
Bill D. Offline


Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 5843
Loc: Boone County Illinois
There are also complete pond kits available for small ponds that include, liner, filtration, etc. that might meet your needs.


Edited by Bill D. (12/04/18 09:50 PM)
_________________________

You'll never know what ya can catch unless you wet a line!

Top
#499315 - 12/05/18 11:02 AM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: jamesbond]
DannyMac Offline


Registered: 04/15/18
Posts: 96
Loc: Bexar county Texas
Northwest of San Antonio, we put in a one tenth acre pond, seven to eight feet deep, lined with 30 mil poly. Stocked with too many catfish (channel and hybrid blues), bluegill, a few bass and three types of minnows. I also threw in some ugly crossed koi/goldfish to get them out of our little koi pond. This pond is nineteen months old, the fish are fed, the catfish approaching 27 inches...pushing the limit of biological load. At one year, I put in aerators...two bottom diffusers and one fountain. I also started regular infusions of aerobic bacteria to eat bottom muck and suspended organics. Also use dye for color. I have two pumps to circulate water up a ravine to feed a fake river. This summer I put in a sand filter between the pumps so I can run one pump through the filter and discharge through the intake of the other, inactive, pump. Two months of heavy rain fired up various plankton blooms and delivered dirt into the pond. I tried a flocculant that cleared the water nicely. I'm about $40,000 into this project...$25k for the pond, etc, and another $15k working on the river and landscaping.
_________________________
Dan McWhirter



Top
#499317 - 12/05/18 11:50 AM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: jamesbond]
Bill Cody Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent

Lunker

Registered: 04/18/02
Posts: 12796
Loc: Northwest Ohio - Malinta OH
Nice thread so far about mini-ponds. Danny - any pictures of your pond with homemade stream? Lusk could do a Pond Boss Magazine article about your mini-pond. It would be an interesting story for readers. Lusk can help you write it - contact him or the PB office.


Edited by Bill Cody (12/05/18 11:51 AM)
_________________________
Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management

Top
#499318 - 12/05/18 12:42 PM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: Bill Cody]
DannyMac Offline


Registered: 04/15/18
Posts: 96
Loc: Bexar county Texas
I'll try.
_________________________
Dan McWhirter



Top
#499323 - 12/05/18 01:55 PM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: jamesbond]
DannyMac Offline


Registered: 04/15/18
Posts: 96
Loc: Bexar county Texas
Some pictures...I think.


Attachments
River from Upside.jpg (119 downloads)
Pond View b.jpg (122 downloads)
Thanksgiving View.jpg (109 downloads)
Pond from Dam.jpg (98 downloads)
Pond toward road.jpg (113 downloads)

_________________________
Dan McWhirter



Top
#499325 - 12/05/18 02:23 PM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: jamesbond]
DannyMac Offline


Registered: 04/15/18
Posts: 96
Loc: Bexar county Texas
There's lots of bare ground (the big rocks were free, just gas and labor) for which, (second attempt from a year ago) during Sep and Oct rains I planted $400 worth of prairie grass and wildflower seed, along with borders of deer food plot seed, and a covering of rye. This time I got pretty much 100% germination! This time, the deer can't possibly eat all the new shoots. Bluebonnets sprouting everywhere! A patch of bare ground halfway up the river is to provide a large bog filter. Two smaller bog filters just need plants. I plan to grab plants from local golf courses...watch out for the guy playing golf and also carrying a trash bag.

In my initial posts under "new member," and titled "A Balcones Escarpment Pond" (I think), I posted early pictures and a link to a YouTube video from last June showing the best of fish living.
_________________________
Dan McWhirter



Top
#499327 - 12/05/18 02:52 PM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: jamesbond]
DannyMac Offline


Registered: 04/15/18
Posts: 96
Loc: Bexar county Texas
Two more pics. A video of the river running?


Attachments
Below the dam.jpg (91 downloads)
Description: Surviving prairie grasses from last year's planting. The deer love this stuff!

A two foot Channel.jpg (93 downloads)
Description: Inch think filets make perfect cubes for frying two bite chunks.


_________________________
Dan McWhirter



Top
#499329 - 12/05/18 03:29 PM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: jamesbond]
RStringer Offline


Registered: 06/06/18
Posts: 70
Loc: Parsons KS
Looks very nice be proud of that.
_________________________
The people who say I can't do it can just sit the @^#% down and watch me.

Top
#499350 - 12/05/18 08:29 PM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: jamesbond]
Bill Cody Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent

Lunker

Registered: 04/18/02
Posts: 12796
Loc: Northwest Ohio - Malinta OH
Get with Lusk. Your small pond will make a good article in the Mini-Pond Section of PB magazine.
_________________________
Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management

Top
#499372 - 12/06/18 04:56 AM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: jamesbond]
Dave Davidson1 Offline
Moderator
Lunker

Registered: 01/04/06
Posts: 13822
Loc: Hurst & Bowie, Texas
Beautiful place Dan. Agree with Cody.
_________________________
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP

Top
#499382 - 12/06/18 10:26 AM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: jamesbond]
DannyMac Offline


Registered: 04/15/18
Posts: 96
Loc: Bexar county Texas
Thank you gentlemen, all y'all.
_________________________
Dan McWhirter



Top
#499387 - 12/06/18 11:04 AM Re: Minimum pond size for freshwater fish in S. Texas [Re: jamesbond]
DannyMac Offline


Registered: 04/15/18
Posts: 96
Loc: Bexar county Texas
My big holdup is the damn river. I was running out of time and money on a rented ride behind track loader (those things can kill easily when you're backing up and the tail wheel under your stand gets jammed!), so dumping big rocks into the "river" liner in a hurry made some serious leaks. So...gonna fix this with concrete...the concrete allows water to soak through it...so now I'm gonna try a concrete sealer. I want those pools to hold water so I can raise minnows and such for forage...without having to run the pumps continuously.
_________________________
Dan McWhirter



Top

Today's Birthdays
Bonvillian, lownums, Skywave
Recent Posts
Difficulty catching LMB
by Snipe
Today at 12:41 AM
Looks like a bait ball to me, but what?
by cb100
Yesterday at 10:49 PM
Over Populated Stunted Bass- HELP PLEASE
by Cody Sandhoff
Yesterday at 10:43 PM
Hello From Mesa, Az
by brisket
Yesterday at 10:31 PM
Algae and water chemistry
by Madelyn
Yesterday at 10:20 PM
My front yard cow pond
by Augie
Yesterday at 09:10 PM
A Pond Log by QA
by Bill D.
Yesterday at 08:55 PM
What did you do at your pond today?
by Mike Whatley
Yesterday at 08:52 PM
Roundup
by Augie
Yesterday at 08:26 PM
Under water video of the bass spawn in my pond
by Bill Cody
Yesterday at 04:46 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
The fish are biting again
Electrofishing survey
Help with defuser placement
Long Pond
Getting the Wood Puck houses done
Coon Pond Photos

2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide